Obliterating Islamic State (ISIS) - Page 9




 
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Boots
 
November 15th, 2015  
lljadw
 
We will hear a lot of words from Hollande,Merkel,Cameron,but they will do nothing for electoral reasons .

Obama will as in january parrot Fisk and say that it is the fault of the Europeans .And if Putin is moving, Obama will,as usually,criticize him .

Yesterday in a debate the socialist Saunders told Hillary : it is all your fault (the war in Iraq) and Hillary said : it is the fault of Assad : we are at that point :the probable Democratic presidential candidate said : 11/13 is the fault of Assad .
November 15th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
Strawman : I did not advocate to nuke the 1.5 billion Muslims
But you want to nuke Syria and Iraq.
November 15th, 2015  
lljadw
 
I do not : I said that it would be a good strategy to use small tactical nuclear weapons against the HQ of ISIS, I never mentionned Aleppo,Mosul,Bagdad,damascus .
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Boots
November 15th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
I do not : I said that it would be a good strategy to use small tactical nuclear weapons against the HQ of ISIS, I never mentionned Aleppo,Mosul,Bagdad,damascus .
How can a nuke be used against ISIS but not against Syria and/or Iraq?
November 15th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Very easily : the ISIS HQ is not covering the whole of Syria and the whole of Iraq : ISIS HQ is only a few square km,and to destroy it a small tactical nuclear weapon is sufficient .
November 15th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
Very easily : the ISIS HQ is not covering the whole of Syria and the whole of Iraq : ISIS HQ is only a few square km,and to destroy it a small tactical nuclear weapon is sufficient .
A small tactical device, huh? So you mean about 10-15 Kilotons device?

Still, if the HQ is situated in Syria, the device will be used in Syria.
November 15th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Much smaller

MK 54 David Crockett 10 or 20 ton

MK 54 SADM :10 ton-1 kiloton

W 54 250 ton
November 15th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
Much smaller

MK 54 David Crockett 10 or 20 ton

MK 54 SADM :10 ton-1 kiloton

W 54 250 ton
Are you serious? You don't understand the reaction if anybody uses a nuclear device. There is no difference between tactical and strategical nuclear weapons, if you use any, regardless size, you have crossed the Rubicon. The reaction in the world will be enormous. If you use a reference to the two nuclear weapons used in 1945, you don't understand the history and how the world has changed since 1945.
November 15th, 2015  
lljadw
 
That's not a valid argument :

1) The Muslims were looking without batting an eyelid while ISIS was murdering on a horrible manner tens of thousands of people, thus why would they be offended if a small nuclear peapon caused the death of a few thousand people :the value of human live in the ME can be expressed in Eurocent .


2) Or the civilians in ISIS country are the victims of ISIS (which is nonsense) and than it is perfectly acceptable to sacrifice some of them to save the others from the massacres of ISIS (it would be perfectly acceptable to attack Auschwitz,resulting in some thousand deaths to save tens of thousands of Jews)


3) Or the civilians in ISIS country are the willing accomplices of ISIS,and than,we should not have any scruples .


4) I tell you who would protest : the Liberals and the Muslim lobby : the pope, the UNO,Merkel, Hollande, Cameron, Clinton,:all these hypocrites who were looking at the ISIS massacres without batting an eyelid ,the antisemites as Fisk who are manoeuvring for a mega Auschwitz .


Should we be impressed by their protests ? Of course not.When we attacked the German cities,Goebbels also was protesting but noone took any notion .

If we continue to do nothing against ISIS,it will not last 5 years before a nuclear war will start in the ME causing millions of death in the ME,Africa and Europe .

it is not 5 before 12,it is 5 after 12 .

Besides,we have no choice :it is a small nuclear weapon or a mass WWII strategic air offensive and,we have no longer the means for such an offensive .

In 1945 the use of nuclear weapons was saving lives;it would also save lives in 2015.

In 1945 it finished the war, it would finish the war in 2015.
November 16th, 2015  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
Strawman : I did not advocate to nuke the 1.5 billion Muslims
And I am not advocating we nuke all Catholics either as we simply dont have enough nukes, we can start with the Vatican as a hot bed of support for the IRA and lets face it they smuggled Nazi's after the war, are reknown kiddy fiddlers and lets not get into the whole Iquisition and Crusades thing so they have it coming then after that we can take it on a case by case basis.

I really do find your stance impossible to take seriously because if I did I would regard you as no different to ISIS, certainly as dangerous and perhaps in need of the same solution.
 


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