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December 24th, 2015  
lljadw
 
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No : you continue to compare apples to kiwis .

Noone is saying that Merkel is coresponsible for Auschwitz, that Erdogan is coresponsible for the Armenian genocide .

But the Germans of 1945 were coresponsible for Auschwitz and the Turks of 1915 were coresponsible for the Armenian genocide .


Other apples to kiwis comparison is to compare what happened in Congo to what happened in Auschwitz .Auschwitz was the final result of the policy of the Third Reich to kill as much Jews as possible,while in the Congo there was no policy to kill as much blacks as possible .

There were atrocities in Congo ,but they were a collateral damage (and even this is disputed) :

there is NO proof that between 1880 and 1920 the population of Congo decreased by 50 % :Casement claimed 3 million victims,Hochschild : 10 million.There was NO census in Congo in 1920,but only in 1924 ,and he was not reliable :some authors claim that in the figure of 10 million were included the inhabitants of Ruanda-Burundi .

and if there was a decrease of 10 million,there is NO proof that this was due to the colonisation:it is as much possible that the population of Congo was already decreasing before the arrival of the White man,that it continued to decrease til after WWI ,when the colonisation started seriously .

There were in 1900 in Congo 1187 Belgians,in 1910 1928,in 1920 3615.

The colonisation started only after WWI .
December 24th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
No : you continue to compare apples to kiwis .

Noone is saying that Merkel is coresponsible for Auschwitz, that Erdogan is coresponsible for the Armenian genocide .

But the Germans of 1945 were coresponsible for Auschwitz and the Turks of 1915 were coresponsible for the Armenian genocide .


Other apples to kiwis comparison is to compare what happened in Congo to what happened in Auschwitz .Auschwitz was the final result of the policy of the Third Reich to kill as much Jews as possible,while in the Congo there was no policy to kill as much blacks as possible .

There were atrocities in Congo ,but they were a collateral damage (and even this is disputed) :

there is NO proof that between 1880 and 1920 the population of Congo decreased by 50 % :Casement claimed 3 million victims,Hochschild : 10 million.There was NO census in Congo in 1920,but only in 1924 ,and he was not reliable :some authors claim that in the figure of 10 million were included the inhabitants of Ruanda-Burundi .

and if there was a decrease of 10 million,there is NO proof that this was due to the colonisation:it is as much possible that the population of Congo was already decreasing before the arrival of the White man,that it continued to decrease til after WWI ,when the colonisation started seriously .

There were in 1900 in Congo 1187 Belgians,in 1910 1928,in 1920 3615.

The colonisation started only after WWI .
He doesn't compare these two events, you do and you fail completely when you cannot compare things. You try to hide you poor education when you try to use fruits as a comparison. What we and what I have tried to do is to show you how wrong you are when you judge all people of a certain faith to be terrorists. You are a loser, the few of them who are terrorists have defeated you. You are a scared uneducated loser, I don't try to convince you are wrong in your perception of people and the world. You are either very young or very stupid. You have never served and you never will, the other Belgians I have met are much better than you. You give them all a bad name, they are professionals, you are an uneducated fascist, like the majority of fascists. We all share the perception of ISIS, they need to go, although, you are their best supporter when you are spreading hatred against Muslims. You are very similar as Degrelle, but you cannot see it.
December 25th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Your insults are crashing into the armour of my contempt .

Besides from an ISIS defender I expected nothing else than lies and lies
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December 27th, 2015  
Sara
 
 
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Originally Posted by lljadw
Your insults are crashing into the armour of my contempt .

Besides from an ISIS defender I expected nothing else than lies and lies
For whom do you have this contempt? ISIS or Muslims?


An article about young British Muslims with a message for the so-called "Islamic" State: Don't murder innocents in my name.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5851500.html?
December 27th, 2015  
lljadw
 
I have no contempt for Muslims, but I do not like them and I do not trust them .
I do expect thousands of European Muslims to volunteer to fight against ISIS in the ME (there are 20 millon of them in Europe),saying on Twitter : Not in my name and than to continue with business as usual is NOT enough .

Muslims do not accept the presence of non Muslims in Muslim countries and when they arrive in Europe they DEMAND privileges and DEMAND that we should adopt their customs .

But even without ISIS I oppose the arrival of Muslims in Europe :they should remain in their own countries .I would also oppose the arrival of millions of Americans, Japanese, Australians,etc in Europe /Belgium .

The arrival of foreigners always create problems ,especially for the natives :they always want to dominate the natives .
December 27th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
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Originally Posted by lljadw
I have no contempt for Muslims, but I do not like them and I do not trust them .
I do expect thousands of European Muslims to volunteer to fight against ISIS in the ME (there are 20 millon of them in Europe),saying on Twitter : Not in my name and than to continue with business as usual is NOT enough .

Muslims do not accept the presence of non Muslims in Muslim countries and when they arrive in Europe they DEMAND privileges and DEMAND that we should adopt their customs .

But even without ISIS I oppose the arrival of Muslims in Europe :they should remain in their own countries .I would also oppose the arrival of millions of Americans, Japanese, Australians,etc in Europe /Belgium .

The arrival of foreigners always create problems ,especially for the natives :they always want to dominate the natives .
BTW there are pockets of Christians in Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and other ME nations. They have coexisted with Muslims for centuries. Although some radical extremist such as the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS have persecuted them.

My grandparents all came from Europe: 2 from Italy and 2 from England. I don't know about Europe, but the arrival of immigrants is a major factor in making the USA a great country. We allow in more immigrant's than any other nation in the world. Currently Hispanic's and Asian's lead the pack and many come in penny less yet are able to make success's of themselves. We too have Muslim immigrants and ones religions is not a factor here, seeing as our government maintains separation of church and state.

Your a racist and have belief systems comparable to that of histories worse the Nazi's. I do agree the people coming in should eventually desire to meld into society, but this takes time, certainly more than one generation.
December 27th, 2015  
lljadw
 
You don't know about Europe, but from your tower of ivory you arrogate to yourself the right to judge Europe and to condemn the Europeans who refuse to follow your exemple .

You still not realize that the time that you could give the rest of the world lessons of morality is over .


You don't know anything about nazism, thus don't lecture us .
December 27th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JOC

We allow in more immigrant's than any other nation in the world.
Not something to boast of .
December 27th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
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Originally Posted by lljadw
You don't know anything about nazism, thus don't lecture us .
You obviously don't pay attention to the forum and my 2 years of posting on the topic of Nazism and Nazi Germany. I have thoroughly studied the Nazi phenomena for years and have researched the topic in detail.

I've had many relative that fought the Nazi's as well. My Uncle Jimmy flew in the BOB, and bombed Germany till wars end, My Uncle Joe fought with Patton from Normandy until wars end and helped liberate a concentration camp, my uncle Joe fought in North Africa and Italy. To name a few
December 27th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
You don't know about Europe, but from your tower of ivory you arrogate to yourself the right to judge Europe and to condemn the Europeans who refuse to follow your exemple.
It is your lack of morality that's in question. You judge the guilt free as guilty and condemn the innocent. Sound familiar. You get on here ranting about the collective crimes of the Muslims vs. focusing on the crimes of the guilty i.e.: ISIS, the Muslim Brotherhood, el-Qaeda, Hezbollah, etc. Heck I've even know of Muslims serving in the US Army.
 


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