Obliterating Islamic State (ISIS) - Page 22




 
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December 4th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by brinktk
Strawman...Strawman...Strawman

When did I ever say anything about the merits or lack thereof between the Sunni and Shi'a?

I was in a predominantly Sunni area that had large swaths of their area controlled by the predecessors of ISIS. Their ideology, method of terror, administration, tactics etc are almost identical...which makes sense since many of the current leaders in ISIS came from AQI, AAS,ISI, etc... This thread is talking about dealing with ISIS...I was pointing out how it isn't as simple to blame the people living in their controlled areas for complicity when they are between a rock and a hard place. I'm sure if I was in Kut, Sadr city, Najaf, or Basra I would have used an example of sectarianism of the Shi'a on the Sunni...But that wasn't what I saw even though I knew it happened because spent almost all my 3 years in Iraq in Sunni controlled areas.

Perhaps Obama orchestrated all the dead bodies that I saw and handled too?...*

Perhaps Obama was just pulling my strings while he twisted his mustache and laughed while I did his dirty work?...*

Yeah, Obama definitely put blinders on my eyes so I could ONLY see one type of problem...ever
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*Sarcasm

Sometimes I wish LeMask would come back, at least he had the integrity to admit he was crazy sometimes...Although he was a pain in the rear...he wasn't dumb.

I don't know what you are...I'm not even sure you're human.

I am legitimately concerned for you...I am very curious what your personal relationships look like.
Obama is responsible for a lot of the casualties in Iraq and Syria,because of his pro ISIS policy .

For the rest, you are repeating what they have taught you : that there is no difference between Muslims and Americans .

If the thread is about handling ISIS (the answer on which is very easy), why are you excusing those who live in a PREDOMINANTLY Sunni area?

Where is the proof that these people are between a rock and a hard place ?
December 4th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Why do you love the Kurds ?

Why do you say (as Obama) that the Iranians are not the boogeymen that they are made out to be ?

The Iranians are the chief culprits for what is happening in the ME .

Why should we sent the leaders to international court systems to be made accountable for what they have do ?

We would make ourselves totally ridiculous,as we have done by condemning Saddam .
December 4th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
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Originally Posted by brinktk
Yes and no. I might be medically discharged from the Army in the next year or so because I am having quite a lot of compounding issues with injuries I have sustained over the years while serving...I don't know what my career looks like at this point.

However, if I do remain in the Army I will either go to the Foreign Area Officer side or the Strategic Studies/ Planning side. (called a functional area in the US Army) Both will require a graduate degree in international/strategic studies. Which is fine by me. I will also likely get another Masters in History as well while I am fulfilling those duties in order to better specialize in those fields (depending on what I end up with). Then once I retire (which would be about the time I'm done with that duty) I would go back to shoot for a Doctorate.

If I get out because of medical, I plan on staying in school for History until I have a Doctorate...I'm currently talking to some Universities right now trying to get set up in order to be able to pull the trigger where I need it in the event that this happens.

When it is all said and done, I am interested in teaching at the University level...I also have contemplated doing some historical/analysis writing as well. I don't know, we shall see
It sounds good, you have two small kids and it might be better for the family to persuade the academic career. I wish you luck regardless where it takes you.

The National Defense University might be something for you (if you aren't talking to them already)
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December 4th, 2015  
brinktk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
Why do you love the Kurds ?

Why do you say (as Obama) that the Iranians are not the boogeymen that they are made out to be ?

The Iranians are the chief culprits for what is happening in the ME .

Why should we sent the leaders to international court systems to be made accountable for what they have do ?

We would make ourselves totally ridiculous,as we have done by condemning Saddam .
Cowards simply don't understand. I'm not wasting my breath explaining something that you will completely misrepresent or take out of context. You've proven you are incapable of thinking critically, so anything I say will likely go over your head in the first place. Go troll somewhere else.
December 4th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw

Why should we sent the leaders to international court systems to be made accountable for what they have do ?
Your leader committed suicide prior facing a court, so it's understandable why you don't like the concept of putting other leaders in front of a court.
December 5th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk
I agree with what you say and I want to add a few thoughts about your last part. There are empirical instances when the reconciliation processes have worked well to get warring parties to work together after the end of hostilities. South Africa is often used as a reference, but there are even better references to make. South America's many military juntas and when they shifted from a dictatorship to a democratic elected governments. Many problems remains, yet they are better off now than they were in the past.

Usually, Hague prefer to prosecute leaders and not the people on the grass rot level. It is unpractical to go after all people members of ISIS. However, it is important to understand them and what makes them tick.
And although Germany may have accepted democracy a bit begrudgedly at 1st. Look at the shining example of democracy they became as well as Japan.

I like the S. American examples. Some such as Stroessner and Peron looked up to the former German regime. Yet they to have given way to democracy.
December 5th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by brinktk
Cowards simply don't understand. I'm not wasting my breath explaining something that you will completely misrepresent or take out of context. You've proven you are incapable of thinking critically, so anything I say will likely go over your head in the first place. Go troll somewhere else.

Translation : I have no arguments , I will retire to my fantasy world, where all Iranians are good and where everything is the fault of George Bush and where I can propagate the idioties of Obama .

Good luck, but , don't forget : sooner or later the Iranians will come after you .
December 5th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk
Your leader committed suicide prior facing a court, so it's understandable why you don't like the concept of putting other leaders in front of a court.

The last defense line of the Liberals : everyone who disagrees with us is a son of Adolf .
December 5th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk
Your leader committed suicide prior facing a court, so it's understandable why you don't like the concept of putting other leaders in front of a court.
Putting foreign leaders before a Western court will be considered,not unjustifiedly, in the rest of the world as a racist, imperialist and colonialist policy and the West will have to pay for it .
December 5th, 2015  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
Translation : I have no arguments , I will retire to my fantasy world, where all Iranians are good and where everything is the fault of George Bush and where I can propagate the idioties of Obama .

Good luck, but , don't forget : sooner or later the Iranians will come after you .
Why are the Iranians coming after me again?
With luck I will get to visit Iran the few Iranians I have met seemed perfectly normal to me and the little I have seen of Iran on TV make it a country I would like to see.

In my travels I have visited Turkey, Bosnia, Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Maldives, United Arab Emirates, Palestine, Malaysia and Indonesia and at no stage did I ever feel threatened and strangely enough in every one of those countries I found a relatively friendly people who despite having different lifestyles and priorities were no different to any other people I have met anywhere in the world.

However to any Iranians planning to come after me, bring dates.
We get a lot of Iranian dates in New Zealand and they are very nice.

It must be a bastard living in fear of everything different I feel for ya.
 


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