Obama vs. Romney

[VDKMS]

To become President of the USA all you need is loads of money to plug your message any where you can and especially on TV. From what I have seen of Romney he is a legend in his own mind [when he can find it] still it is all about the cash you splash around on the campaign trail and all the favours you can promise your rich self interest groups that invest in the campaign and lets face it they call the tune and not the people when that person is elected.

And if you are a Republican or Democrat. Remember Ross Perot?

Personally I think you are not cynical enough, the current dire situation of your economy is directly due to unrestricted capitalism and you want to elect a guy that thinks that is the way to go.

We live in a world where the middle class is taking an absolute pounding and yet we continue to elect millionaires and billionaires who tell us they understand the problems of the poor and middle class and that the answer is to make the rich richer.

If you let the poor and middle class rule you're in for a real disaster. I don't care if the rich get richer but I do care about my financials. If you squeeze the rich they'll leave together with their companies. Are you able to give the laborers a new job?

Whining about everything solves nothing. If you want to change something start with yourself.

My point of view is that politics should not mingle with the economy but they must set out rules so it won't become a jungle.

 

[George]

Romney is an idiot. In my opinion, Barack Obama is probably the best thing to happen to the United States in the past ten years. He's trying to create a better America, Universal Healthcare and all that... that's good stuff, positive stuff!

Meanwhile Mitt's making an ass out of himself on national television, if he gets into the White House, not even God can help the United States.

I would happily see Obama get another four years in the hotseat, before I saw a Republican with ignorance not quite up there, but close to, the ignorance of the war-mongering, "yee-haw-oops" George Bush Jr.

Foward Comrades to the glorious future!

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Which is why although he is far from perfect or as experianced as I would have liked. When faced with either a stroke or cancer, I guess I'll lead towards Obama.

The man was patheticly inexpierienced. But I see what your price in the Vote buying arena is...

 

[Yossarian]

Foward Comrades to the glorious future!
The man was patheticly inexpierienced. But I see what your price in the Vote buying arena is...

So your your out to stop the social communists leftist heathen revolution?

I am voting because I honestly feel that not to , but yet complain about the enroaching upon our few honest liberties left is a counter statement.

The biggest issue is that people love to fight the same old arguements, about he same old alter images. And do the same old thing, NOTHING, absolutley NOTHING.

When we fight right against left, then the same ulterior parties who dominate our finacial system and quite literally our lives, will continue to abuse government and ecourage Americans to be bitter about idealogies.

As long as all Americans argue the same old arguements we will never agree with each other until we reach our next bubble caused by the morons in charge of our banking system and abuse of political seats and offices.

Quite honestly when it does happen I am going to enjoy a large tabocco product , enter poverty with the rest of us and put on a big fat smile and say. " We told you So".

It would be nice, and utter advancement of the human species if we quite eating the surface hype day in and day out and look for the actual sources of the problems that you and I, and more especially our childeren are going to have to face.

We have to think different, and get new ideas of what wealth and fufillment actually mean.

Step one is to turn off the faucets designed to sucker all Americans into the "chasing the Dream" mindest, and stop being just consumers.

Spewing lines of "G## D@(#* President and his stupid homo communists plots!" Or "stupid neo conservitives, those *@())ing eco Nazi's!"

Is not going to do a THING. If that's all we can do then maybe we deserve being number 2 in the world of tommorow.

 

[pixiedustboo]

Foward Comrades to the glorious future!

Bahahahaha!

I have to agree with you there...not so keen myself, but ANYONE is better than Mitt Romney and his ilk.

 

[George]

Bahahahaha!

I have to agree with you there...not so keen myself, but ANYONE is better than Mitt Romney and his ilk.

That was sarcasm, just the opposit. Anyone would be better than the Marxist hollow suit & his bunch that are in there now.

 

[Misty]

It's all very simple

If Romney can get enough cash together he will win.
The real problem is how are we going to tackle Iran militarily? Yeah we can donate to the Israeli Airforce a few block busters, but what about the Straight of Homuz?Lebanon? Do we come to some sought of deal with the Saudis so that we invade Syria and then on to Iran? Certainly it would help out in Afghanistan.

 

[Yossarian]

If Romney can get enough cash together he will win.
The real problem is how are we going to tackle Iran militarily? Yeah we can donate to the Israeli Airforce a few block busters, but what about the Straight of Homuz?Lebanon? Do we come to some sought of deal with the Saudis so that we invade Syria and then on to Iran? Certainly it would help out in Afghanistan.

Romney appears to be keen on Israeli "aid". This is what worries me, he appears to want to continue to keep the U.S. foreign policy oriented towards an eventual proxy war.

Israel has taken various measures to create a sense of impending doom posed by Iran. The constant and continuely referencing by all media outlets of Iran's tryanical nuclear "program". The conitnued provoking actions of threatening gestures and denail of murdered Iranian scientist.

Romney worrys me based on the fact that Israeli foreign policy and interest lobbyist would pounce on him and have him putting American lives on the line for Israeli interest.

I am not claiming the U.S. is on the road to a major military defeat, quite the contary. It's just in a nation tired of war, it would be the road to a conflict like we haven't seen in decades, a war against a nation capable of inflicting large amounts of casualts and hastening our nation's decline in other critcal areas.

Our future is in economic stablity and faith in monetary system, as well as education will be the factors which dominate the 21st century, all things we are losing grips on. Another brush war on the heels of Afghanistan on Israel's behalf would be just enough to push our heads under the water.

And Romney bother's me in this respect.

Although Obama seems to be urging towards building the almost necessary hype of Syria to intfere there. Because if you noticed almost always before the bombs drop, the media bombards us sometimes with months of entirely negative views of the situation.


Not that I am saying the situation isn't horrible, but that a dozen other factors are not being reported nor widley mentioned. It's almost pathetic in a sense that this is being done to rally some sort of sympathey "at this point more or less justifcation" for the invetible military action yet again in the region.

If you can justify another military action at this point there.
The potential for backlash in the future appears certain if we do.

 

[George]

Romney asked the Platform Committee to waterdown an anti-abortion Plank, the Comittee refused. Debbie Wasserman Schultz lies her butt off about the Republican Platform Plank about abortion, claiming it was written to Romney's specs. She is challenged by Anderson Cooper, on his show last night, that her statement is false & she replied that it doesn't matter. I guess lies about Romney is OK if it advances Obama's chances.

 

[Misty]

O come on its the old story of some one cent nobody pleading to be attacked. It's going to happen sooner or later - Sooner! Before they get the bomb - face reality for Christ's sake.

 

[Yossarian]

O come on its the old story of some one cent nobody pleading to be attacked. It's going to happen sooner or later - Sooner! Before they get the bomb - face reality for Christ's sake.

Do you have a clear indication of the fallout and blowback surrounding such actions?

Or are you ignoring the past 40 years of such policy?

 

[headwards]

Yeah bro chill out. If you want to have a war save up the money for it.
Dont throw the world into any more of a financial tailspin with your warriness

 

[pixiedustboo]

That was sarcasm, just the opposit. Anyone would be better than the Marxist hollow suit & his bunch that are in there now.

*Banging head on brick wall.*

You don't catch on to jokes too easily do you?

The first part of my comment, 'hahaha' and 'agree with you there' were in response to your *known* sarcasm.

The second part about anyone being better than Romney-The-Douche however was not....

 

[George]

Still think Obama's Socialist-Marxist agenda is/should be the central point of urgency in getting him out of there. It also explains his inability in almost 4 years to get the economy going, it just doesn't work with his beliefs.

 

[pixiedustboo]

Still think Obama's Socialist-Marxist agenda is/should be the central point of urgency in getting him out of there. It also explains his inability in almost 4 years to get the economy going, it just doesn't work with his beliefs.

So it's not okay to have a socialist/Marxist in the White House but it is okay to have a man that would take away a woman's right to abort her rapists child? (btw, just so you know, in 30 states if a woman chooses to have her rapists child the rapist has legal right to visitation and in some cases custody...). It's okay to have a man who hides his money in off-shore accounts so he doesn't have to pay taxes? It's okay to have a man like that in the White House?

Tell me, on the ladder of importance don't you think a person's soul, the right to protect the very essence of our human-selves weighs more than "agenda's" of (so-called) "socialism?"

 

[MontyB]

Tell me, on the ladder of importance don't you think a person's soul, the right to protect the very essence of our human-selves weighs more than "agenda's" of (so-called) "socialism?"

See now you are getting into philosophy, does a mans character outweigh his ideology.

In an ideal world it should but sadly character has been driven long ago from politics.

It always intrigues me that when talking politics with Americans they always invariably start talking about the "founding fathers" and how great they were and I have to wonder how the current batch of politicians would stack up in their place.

Personally I think they would have all been tarred, feathered and run out of town on rails within a year.

 

[George]

So it's not okay to have a socialist/Marxist in the White House but it is okay to have a man that would take away a woman's right to abort her rapists child? (btw, just so you know, in 30 states if a woman chooses to have her rapists child the rapist has legal right to visitation and in some cases custody...). It's okay to have a man who hides his money in off-shore accounts so he doesn't have to pay taxes? It's okay to have a man like that in the White House?

Tell me, on the ladder of importance don't you think a person's soul, the right to protect the very essence of our human-selves weighs more than "agenda's" of (so-called) "socialism?"

Romney isn't in favor of the anti-abortion plank, at least as written. Visitation sounds like something a Liberal Judge would think up. If Romney was doing anything illegal in the tax dept, the IRS would be all over him. Pass The Fair Tax & we wouldn't be worried about it. Ask the Russians & Chinese how their souls were doing.
I think the current politicians wouldn't fair well in the early days of the Republic, @ least not in the FF's eyes.

 

[Yossarian]

Still think Obama's Socialist-Marxist agenda is/should be the central point of urgency in getting him out of there. It also explains his inability in almost 4 years to get the economy going, it just doesn't work with his beliefs.

It's thought processes like these that ignore the finacial rape and abuse of our goverment of both parties by interest groups and organizations and allow what's really threatening our way life to continue.

The fight of socialism vs. captialism is a early 20th century struggle.

You need to modernize your search for the foundations of our ailing economic structure and how it affect us all. Not symtoms to a conflict over a century old.

Banking, and backdoor finacial polices employed by the FED are far more accurate descriptions to finacial mayhem than "Those darn Commies".

Being Democrat or Repulican anymore is irrelevent. The current administration is on the road to being replaced by an equally miused one.

Our nation's founders did not create offices of government to be faces of tools to create bubbles in industry and open the bazaar on lender freindly loaning practices.

Just blaming those who are in place soley to be blamed is insuring the so cleverly maintained ostrich effect.

When you blame the face of this issue (those in office) and not the root cause (abuse of educational institutions for profit, or unfair lending practices for instance). Then all you are doing is helping those who run the finacial groups who manage this syndicate.

As long as blame (our darn social anit christ president). Then they are free to do what the've always been doing, without challenge. Because people go after the wrong parties and show no interest in actually remedying their failing monetary practices.

I guess you can say nobody likes a cold pale of water to the face? Do they?.

Have fun blaming your scapegoats.

 

[pixiedustboo]

Romney isn't in favor of the anti-abortion plank, at least as written. Visitation sounds like something a Liberal Judge would think up. If Romney was doing anything illegal in the tax dept, the IRS would be all over him. Pass The Fair Tax & we wouldn't be worried about it. Ask the Russians & Chinese how their souls were doing.
I think the current politicians wouldn't fair well in the early days of the Republic, @ least not in the FF's eyes.

In his voting he is. I could give a hoot his words or his written beliefs, his beliefs are those he backs as a man in power.

You are very naive to think as you do on the tax issue. (I am speaking very much about what is 'right,' not what is 'legal.')

 

[pixiedustboo]

Being Democrat or Repulican anymore is irrelevent. The current administration is on the road to being replaced by an equally misused one.

There it is.

The entire discussion of politics has come to an end - this is TRUTH.

It is sad the reality America is in.

 

[Yossarian]

So it's not okay to have a socialist/Marxist in the White House but it is okay to have a man that would take away a woman's right to abort her rapists child?

For anyone who says yes to this, I would like to see you take your own time and committment and be made to care for at least one crack baby. If life is so overwhelmingly precious at conception, then you shouldn't be allowed to turn about and care less once the child is born. You should be made to show dedication to your beliefs after the child is born, not just when it's a fetus.

It's easy to scream what is wrong with you !? in the qouted situation above.But yet not want to put the sole effort of lifting a single finger once reality settles in. And watch the child grow up and complain about prison populations and living in a welfare state.