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Boots
 
October 11th, 2004  
CMA2
 
 

Topic: Re: nutty americans and guns


Quote:
Originally Posted by dougal
I seen on Irish Tv last night the film about Columbine.

And acording to the film yer nuts about guns and not doing anything good enough to make a difference.

And acording to the film ye (as a nation) blam it on everything and anything, but its down to how afraid ye are. Remember the cartoon on it?

In my opion ye are nutsos on weapons from this site.

Whats yer opion?

DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND RESEARCH MICHAEL MOORE

Moore has been proven a liar of the greatest magnitude and is the one of the most despicable people in the world for creating films that are controversial so as to bilk thousands of their hard earned money..

He has gotten extremely rich with his lies.
October 11th, 2004  
Stafford911
 
 
if you go to michal moores web site he lists links to his sources and proves himself correct
October 12th, 2004  
Airborne Eagle
 
 
"Bowling For Truth"

Michael Moore's created something of a cottage industry debunking his distortions.

If folks want others to watch his films, they should also take time to hear the researched criticism of his movies. Fair enough?

Now, I am not a gun owner. Doubt I ever will own a firearm of any type. However, individual rights are not easily obtained or maintained and government's are quick to step in when people relax their guard.

So, I will defend the right to possess firearms. And I don't think my fellow countrymen are wrong or strange if they own them.
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October 12th, 2004  
dougal
 
 
Ok this has hit a nerve.

An dpeople dont want to know about it. (neglect)

Moore is the only one willing to make anything of it. Those of you calling him a lier? Is he lieing about all the facts? People getting guns for joining banks. Come on thats taking the piss. Its not civilised or correct or what ever.

And aggression, alot of people are like that here before puting me wrong because i dont leave in the states.

Someone put me right with facts
October 12th, 2004  
RnderSafe
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dougal
Ok this has hit a nerve.

An dpeople dont want to know about it. (neglect)

Moore is the only one willing to make anything of it. Those of you calling him a lier? Is he lieing about all the facts?
And aggression, alot of people are like that here before puting me wrong because i dont leave in the states.

Someone put me right with facts
If you wanted the facts, you would research them. It is clear you're willing to make a broad generalisation about a country, it's people, and it's laws without doing the leg work (research) and trusting one "source." A source that contains more opinions than facts, more sensationalism than reality.

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People getting guns for joining banks. Come on thats taking the piss. Its not civilised or correct or what ever.
It was a promotional offer, big deal. The bank itself did not, despite how the movie choose to portray it, hand out guns like candy. No firearms were kept in the bank, nor were they given out immediately, they were kept at a dealers shop. The movie also neglects to inform the viewer of the tedious process, security checks and paper work it takes to "get" a rifle.

It's pretty simple really - video editing, a little manipulating and spun perceptions can make anything seem like the "truth" to those unwilling to educate themselves and be spoon fed their opinions.

You may continue to have your opinions and feel as if this movie is an accurate portrayal of life and people within the US, but that won't change reality, however.
October 13th, 2004  
Lupos
 
 
Go to www.moorelies.com or try finding the book Micheal Moore is a Big, Fat, White Idiot. Then you can come back and say Bowling for Columbine is a documentary.
October 13th, 2004  
CMA2
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stafford911
if you go to michal moores web site he lists links to his sources and proves himself correct

DUH!


If you go to the sites for Saddam, Hitler, Gengis Kahn, Irish Republican Army, USSR, China they will also "prove" that their positions are the only valid one as well.

Michael Moore has been exposed by many many reputable sources. He IS a liar without doubt and with an agenda.
October 13th, 2004  
AlexKall
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Courtenay
Quote:
Originally Posted by dougal
How could you possible lie about that?

He opens your eyes and told it from the point of view no one wanted to know about.

And the evidence is there
Dougal, that was NOT a documentary, but rather an opinionated dipiction of a filmmaker's views about gun ownership in America.

Yes, American's love their guns. So much so, that they wrote it right into our Bill of Rights. 2nd Ammendment to our Constitution. Understand, as Americans we do not want the government telling us what we can and cannot have as protection or hobbies in our homes. Nor will we allow that to happen. There are laws in place that punish those who use firearms irresponsibly, or who have them illegally.

There are a bunch of folks like Michael Moore who are very socialist leaning in their beliefs and want to see government restrictions on everything. I encourage them to find a country which offers that system of government. America isn't interested.
Whats wrong with socialism?

Quote:
DUH!


If you go to the sites for Saddam, Hitler, Gengis Kahn, Irish Republican Army, USSR, China they will also "prove" that their positions are the only valid one as well.

Michael Moore has been exposed by many many reputable sources. He IS a liar without doubt and with an agenda.
Only problem is that now your saying the same that your "proof" is to be trusted and is the only proof that is vaild, which you compared to those people above. I take it that the above was a bad thing, which makes what you said a bad thing aswell.

I dont really care for More, I don't dislike him and i dont love him either. But to say that something is wrong and then saying the same thing isn't good
October 13th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Quote:
Whats wrong with socialism?
It doesn't encourage innovation, competition, and growth when you're a welfare state that even diapers adults.
October 13th, 2004  
RnderSafe
 
 
Keep on topic.