Norwegian and Finnish Rank system (split) - Page 2




 
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February 7th, 2005  
Redleg
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroSpike
How much is norwegian wartime strenght today? That strenght wich is to defend norwegian soil itself?
Not that much..

Aprox numbers:
Army: 89,000
Home Guard: 83,000
Navy: 22,000
Air Force: 20,000

Here's some official facts and figures:
http://www.mil.no/languages/english/start/facts/
February 7th, 2005  
EuroSpike
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroSpike
How much is norwegian wartime strenght today? That strenght wich is to defend norwegian soil itself?
Not that much..

Aprox numbers:
Army: 89,000
Home Guard: 83,000
Navy: 22,000
Air Force: 20,000

Here's some official facts and figures:
http://www.mil.no/languages/english/start/facts/
Army units are mobile operative troops, right?

And Home guard is somekind locally acting areal troops? I guess they protect targets and are responsible to locally defend their area? They may be similar to our infantry brigades, independent infantry battalions wich are primarily for local defence missions.

" Its mission is mainly guard duty/securing key points such as mobilisation stores, power stations, telecoms installations etc. The Land Home Guard also has function in the area of surveillance/intelligence."

Sounds our's guard company but how about tasks and general tactics in combat?

What kind of equipments are issued to home guard soldiers and organizations? Do they have their military clothes at home? Do they have heavy equipments like field artillery, AA etc?
February 7th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
I heard the Swedes have 120 man companies that are mobilized in the event of war. From what my Swedish friend tells me, they're 120 drunk, angry guys with guns who have orders to conduct guerilla warfare.
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February 7th, 2005  
SHERMAN
 
 
This sounds like the IDF, with officers start out like eveyone else. That way young officers were already sargents...
February 7th, 2005  
Snauhi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
I heard the Swedes have 120 man companies that are mobilized in the event of war. From what my Swedish friend tells me, they're 120 drunk, angry guys with guns who have orders to conduct guerilla warfare.
Yes Sweden have this kind of compani and its called "Hemvärn"
February 7th, 2005  
Redleg
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroSpike
Army units are mobile operative troops, right?
Yes.


Quote:
And Home guard is somekind locally acting areal troops? I guess they protect targets and are responsible to locally defend their area? They may be similar to our infantry brigades, independent infantry battalions wich are primarily for local defence missions.

Sounds our's guard company but how about tasks and general tactics in combat?

What kind of equipments are issued to home guard soldiers and organizations? Do they have their military clothes at home? Do they have heavy equipments like field artillery, AA etc?
Home Guard (Heimevernet) are light Infantry troops (AG3, 84mm AT, 50. HMG etc..), with the responsibility to defend their local area.
No heavy weapons/vehicles.

Some more info about them here:
http://www.mil.no/languages/english/...cts/homeguard/
February 7th, 2005  
AlexKall
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroSpike
Swedish way of handling military, shut down the defence and concentrate on world saving? All countries decreasing their military power leads only to situation where everyone asks help but no-one is able to give it. Who is going to help if no-one has troops for it? Even US can't help all countries and some will be let on their owns and the only hope is to speed train people, if time enough for that.
Hehe so true, its not good to have basicly more planes then pilots

And I hope they're stay off the alcohol that day when its time to get in
February 7th, 2005  
EuroSpike
 
Redleg: Seems to be quite similar system to our system with operative and local areal troops.

"Hehe so true, its not good to have basicly more planes then pilots"

Now a bit offtopic but i have a good solution for that. Let's sell Ahvenanmaa (Åland) to ruskies and let them build a huge strategical naval base there. Then gain them a path throught Lappland, straight highway Petrozavodsk-Haparanda, then lets see what swedish goverment is going to do... I guess process of decreasing military would turn around.

"Yes Sweden have this kind of compani and its called "Hemvärn""

Or Hemvärnet? Untill 2008 some units of our local troops are reformed and filled by volunteer reservists, similar to swedish hemvärnet wich is originally copy of old finnish home guard.
February 9th, 2005  
AlexKall
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroSpike
Redleg: Seems to be quite similar system to our system with operative and local areal troops.

"Hehe so true, its not good to have basicly more planes then pilots"

Now a bit offtopic but i have a good solution for that. Let's sell Ahvenanmaa (Åland) to ruskies and let them build a huge strategical naval base there. Then gain them a path throught Lappland, straight highway Petrozavodsk-Haparanda, then lets see what swedish goverment is going to do... I guess process of decreasing military would turn around.
Well if i know göran right, hes porpbebly only going to have a big party for them
February 9th, 2005  
EuroSpike
 
"Well if i know göran right, hes porpbebly only going to have a big party for them"

What? You mean he would greet them welcome? Is this Göran somekind "comm... sorry, "usefull fool" in Sweden? Let me guess, he has propably KGB/Stasi/FSB backround or at least connections, huh?

I read somewhere that your left wing had forced their members to vote for military decreasing, if they wouldn't they would have been booted out from party. Is that true?

I have never understod any person who wants to fail his own country, his own people and himself.

Btw. How about swedish rank system? Do you really have no NCOs as someone has mentioned here somewhere? Isn't "Furir" NCO?