Typical Western mindset.Frankly, the ME is not yet ready for democracy. Religion is to heavely involved and the average resident not well enough educated (read easily manipulated) to make a choice.
The Arab spring was started by secular people and later hijacked by religious ones. The seculars were not able to stand up against the power of the mosques.
The constitution in a democracy must be very neutral and for all the people. If you throw in religion it is not for all the people anymore.
Some questions
1- What is the different between west politics before these events and after that? For example compare Obama speech in Cairo University about the Mobark regime and his speech after Egypt revolution.
2- Do the western countries and especially the US, who show themselves as the guiding of freedom and democracy in the world (!!!), have the same policies with the different dictatorships in the region after these events?
3- Which country will increase his influence and which one will lose it in the ME in future?
Yes the politics is a dirty business in west. All the things the west politicians say about freedom, human rights, women rights, homosexual rights, animal rights... are just propaganda to use them against the countries that don't follow west.Originally Posted by VDKMS
Politics is dirty business. It's about power. But also about defending interests which can be a disadvantage for other people/countries. Take oil for instance. The ME is full of it and many countries are dependent on it. If the oil producing countries of the ME decide to block all oil exports it's war. People all over the world will force their governments to take action.
But politics is also a balancing act. Again interests come into play. Everyone is watching the Arab spring and looking for ways to keep doing business but one good turn deserves another.
I am not a religious person but no doubt the only winner will be Islamist.About which country will increase his influence and which one will lose it in the ME in future? It depends. Influece on people or government? Do not forget that new leaders will be informed by the secret services of that country and will hear a lot of new things that they didn't know about. China and Russia are for the moment not very well liked in the ME but once their financial support arrives that can quickly change.
The ME people don't want to have a copy of west democracy in their countries and in fact they don't need it. They want to have a government that be based on their culture. this is the minimum right of a society. with religion or without it, it depended on to that country 's people decision .Democracy in Islam is impossible. Islam in a democracy is possible. It's called cultural Islam. Rule of law is neutral, for all people. Holidays are islamic ones. Just as christianity in a democracy is called Cultural Christianity. Christian holidays. But when religious laws are put into the rule of law democracy is finished. Religion can be a splendid thing if it is used for personal benefits. Once you force it upon other people it's terror.
Yes the politics is a dirty business in west. All the things the west politicians say about freedom, human rights, women rights, homosexual rights, animal rights... are just propaganda to use them against the countries that don't follow west.
west double standard politics about ME events are good examples. They talk about the freedom in Libya but don't talk about freedom in Saudi Arabia, they talk about Syria but don't talk about Bahrain, they ... .
So when one of west politician talk about the human right in a country, we should know that they want to catch a benefit there and when they don't talk we should know they don't want to lose a benefit there. there are a lot of examples of this type. It is the worth you pride to it but in east it isn't.
I am not a religious person but no doubt the only winner will be Islamist.
The ME people don't want to have a copy of west democracy in their countries and in fact they don't need it. They want to have a government that be based on their culture. this is the minimum right of a society. with religion or without it, it depended on to that country 's people decision .
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