The next Arab-Israeli war - Page 3




 
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April 23rd, 2010  
Twilight
 
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Originally Posted by SHERMAN
http://www.military-quotes.com/forum...t=6079&start=0
We decided to start a new topic, as I cant have two of these X Vs. Y toppics right now. So our new topic is the next Arab-Israeli war.

some points to start with:

1- when is this war going to happen?

2- which Arab countrys will participate?

3- how will it go?

1-I Think That Will Happen After Mubarak Leave ... Cuz He,s Prefer politique More Than War


2-I Think Egypt Will Lead This And May Syria , Iran Helps


3-I Think If Us Didn,t Joined This War Israel Will Fall..... But If Us In Then All Arab Countrys Will Be In .. And Iran And May Be Russia And China Helps Arab In This And Become A World War .





But Don,t You Think That You Underestimated OF Egypt And The Arabs Countrys .. So Many Things Has Been Changed Since Last War 1973 ... So I am Kind Of Sure That Egypt Only Can Handle War Against Israel


(IF) Us Is Not Helps.. But If That Happened Will Be A World War Cuz Egypt Is Biggest Country At Middle East So IF Egypt Started A War Every Body Will Help ....


May Be Im Saying That Cuz Im Egyptian But At Last I Think That Could Be Right



But ... For Me ... I Realy Hope For All Problem Be Solved And We ALL Live In Peace
May 2nd, 2010  
Bolava
 
 
1-it depends on Israel. Israel would be the one who declares the war.

2-
a-if Israel attacks Syria or Lebanon ,they will be the countries who fight but with assistance from other Arab countries.for instance : Lebanon war in 1982,2006.

b-if Israel forces Palestinians to immigrate to Jordan ,then all Arab countries would involve the war beside Jordan.

3-
a-Israel would be closely defeated although that she would pay a dearly price which would end by liberty of Golan and Lebanese lands.
such as 2006 war.
b- Israel would be clearly defeated due to the superiority of Arabs armies in quality and quantity which would end by retuning all Arabs rights.

such as 1973 although Arabs are far stronger since that time.
May 4th, 2010  
Big_Z
 
 
The Arabs will never reach the quality of Israel troops. They are top tier and extremely brutal. Look how quickly million man Arab armies fall to a Western army. We are talking days or weeks.
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May 4th, 2010  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Z
The Arabs will never reach the quality of Israel troops. They are top tier and extremely brutal. Look how quickly million man Arab armies fall to a Western army. We are talking days or weeks.
I think that your views are very simplistic. Given the fact that the Arabs have not had a superpower injecting $3 million a day (equivalent) into their economy (much more at times), plus access to almost limitless military aid for the last 60 years, plus an relatively unarmed opponent to practice using their newly acquired weaponry on, whilst they gained that 60 years worth of experience.
May 5th, 2010  
Partisan
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Z
The Arabs will never reach the quality of Israel troops. They are top tier and extremely brutal. Look how quickly million man Arab armies fall to a Western army. We are talking days or weeks.
Err not too sure about that. I'm not disputing the quality of the Israeli Army, but surely you cannot consign all Arab armies to being rubbish! Remember that nowadays most arabian armies have officers trained abroad so that they can bring back modern tactics and training methods. I'm always worried when I hear sweeping generalisations and over confidence in one side, that leads to complacency and we all know where that leads.

For my pennies worth, the next war will be sparked internally, wither by Palestinian farmers / workers or by Israeli settlere. They are the front line of this conflict and neither will bend. It just depends who has the most powerful political will to prosecute their objectives - so that would be Israel prosecuting a war of xenophobia and genocide, where did they find that blueprint?
May 7th, 2010  
Twilight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Z
The Arabs will never reach the quality of Israel troops. They are top tier and extremely brutal. Look how quickly million man Arab armies fall to a Western army. We are talking days or weeks.
actualy I don,t think that your vision is right you totaly ignored the arab armies by anyway ....but if a milion man arab armies fall as you saying how many man of israel will fall ... so that,s first that isreal can,t risk losing ppl cuz that,s the most important thing they have .... that,s if you are right in your point ...... and there is another thing you forgot to talk about that egypt and most arab countries have better economics now .. and no longer depending on one supplier as us .... but they are getting good technologys from russia as a ballance cuz we all know that us wants for israel to be more steeps up than arab so ... if you remember the last war 1973 .... you will know that sam missle system and most of this egyptian weapons was given by sovit union... at last i think that egypt only .. (not all arab ) just egypt can defeate israel so badly
May 8th, 2010  
Bolava
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Z
The Arabs will never reach the quality of Israel troops. They are top tier and extremely brutal. Look how quickly million man Arab armies fall to a Western army. We are talking days or weeks.
yes they were extremely brutal in 2006 war and gaza war.anyway arabs have already exceeds israel military quality.

tanks 15000
Arabs
t-90, Abrams m1a2
lecrec ,chalenger2

Israel 2500
400 Merkava4

air force
mig29smt,mig31,su25
su24,f-15,f-18,f-16
euro fighter,

israel
70 f-15,300 f16


naval force


so who is stronger?
May 8th, 2010  
philpost
 
As someone else pointed out, Egypt after Mubarak is a country to watch. If a Muslim Brotherhood -influenced gov't takes power, they withdraw from their peace treaty (probably under pretext of treatment of Palestinians), and then who knows. I would guess non-state actors (particularly Hezbollah) could precipitate the next conflict, drawing in Syria/Iran. I would also venture to guess some nasty surprises on everyones side in that case. What I would not like to see is Israel feeling it was cornered and pushed into total war. Let's be honest, Israel may treat Palestinians brutally, but religiously-minded folks in Dar-al-Islam will not swallow the indignity of allowing a kuffr state to exist in their midst. I wish there was some way for everyone to stand down.
May 8th, 2010  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by philpost
As someone else pointed out, Egypt after Mubarak is a country to watch. If a Muslim Brotherhood -influenced gov't takes power, they withdraw from their peace treaty (probably under pretext of treatment of Palestinians), and then who knows. I would guess non-state actors (particularly Hezbollah) could precipitate the next conflict, drawing in Syria/Iran. I would also venture to guess some nasty surprises on everyones side in that case. What I would not like to see is Israel feeling it was cornered and pushed into total war. Let's be honest, Israel may treat Palestinians brutally, but religiously-minded folks in Dar-al-Islam will not swallow the indignity of allowing a kuffr state to exist in their midst. I wish there was some way for everyone to stand down.
Oh, but there is a way.

The only thing is, that no one will actually bite the bullet and tell Israel that a great mistake was made when Britain reneged on their promise to give the Palestinians a state of their own in return for their alliance against the Turks in WWI; and that they, (the Israelis) will have to return the stolen lands to it's rightful owners.

Now you can say what you like about it being impossible, blah, blah, blah,... but that is the simple truth of them matter and the longer it is allowed to go on the harder it is going to be and the more lives it will cost. The Israelis are not going to listen to anyone else and are not interested in the truth, believing that they have some weird religious "right" to be there, and the Arab nations are never going to just let the matter slide while a people are pushed off their land and/or exterminated.

The truth is that there is no easy way out, and so long as the present arrangement exists war is going to fester in the Middle east the effects of which are going to keep organisations like Al Quaeda in business until the matter is settled.

The only other workable alternative is that all Arab/Muslim nations in the world will have to be exterminated to a man, and that just ain't gunna happen.

It would be a lot easier and less painful to just give the Palestinians their country back. The sooner it happens the less misery for all concerned.
May 9th, 2010  
Partisan
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
Oh, but there is a way.

The only thing is, that no one will actually bite the bullet and tell Israel that a great mistake was made when Britain reneged on their promise to give the Palestinians a state of their own in return for their alliance against the Turks in WWI; and that they, (the Israelis) will have to return the stolen lands to it's rightful owners.

Now you can say what you like about it being impossible, blah, blah, blah,... but that is the simple truth of them matter and the longer it is allowed to go on the harder it is going to be and the more lives it will cost. The Israelis are not going to listen to anyone else and are not interested in the truth, believing that they have some weird religious "right" to be there, and the Arab nations are never going to just let the matter slide while a people are pushed off their land and/or exterminated.

The truth is that there is no easy way out, and so long as the present arrangement exists war is going to fester in the Middle east the effects of which are going to keep organisations like Al Quaeda in business until the matter is settled.

The only other workable alternative is that all Arab/Muslim nations in the world will have to be exterminated to a man, and that just ain't gunna happen.

It would be a lot easier and less painful to just give the Palestinians their country back. The sooner it happens the less misery for all concerned.
But what would happen to all thos egainfully employed politicians? Come on Senjo, you know that they too have a right to life, worms that they are.

Actually I agree with you, someone (the US) needs to man up and not only tell the Israelis what they're doing is wrong, but to make them see the consequences of their actions, through sanctions and reduction of military aid.