Italian Guy
Milforum Hitman
You're sure right on that, Mmarsh. So what do polls say on the Dems?
You failed to answer my question about why the NSA needs this power and you also failed to explain why the FBI simply cannot obtain a warrant from FISA. But I forgot to mention the 72 hour rule, which is a court order (easy to obtain, all they need is Probable Cause) from FISA that allows wiretapping for up to 72 hours without a warrant. How come the government cannot use that? No the government wants total power, complete access to wiretapping with no limitations whatsoever. <snip>
The only thing I can tell you is that they are poised to win in November.
Italian Guy said:Polls? Hold on hold on hold on.... can you remind me what polls said about the outcome of the 2004 election? In Italy the left was largely expected by pollsters to get a solid +5% at our election. In the end the right took more votes. Just to doublecheck how accurate polls may be.
I hate to break it to you, but the latest Harris Poll had Bush at 29% approval and sliding. He is only 6 points away from beating Nixon as the most unpopular president in US History. Your're certainly entitled to cheerlead Bush if you like, but understand that you are in the VAST minority.
The only thing I can tell you is that they are poised to win in November.
mmarsh said:IG
Thats what the margin or error is for, to calculate mistakes in the polls. I cannot speak for Italian politics, but I can for American politics. Its highly doubtful (near impossible) the polls are wrong, as its coming from mulitple polls groups taken from the past year and a half. The chances they are false are so astronamically low if they were, I will start buying lotto tickets again. Even news sources that are highly sympathetic to Bush (like FOX) has the presidents numbers in the toilet. This ship is sinking fast. The latest Harris Poll had Bush at 29% approval and sliding.
hardcore_idiot said:i think its disgusting that a government spies on its citizens. what about if, say, you're talking about a highly embarrasing (i.e. affaire etc) subject on the phone, and a government agent hears it?
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