New Theories Stating Troy was in Great Britain




 
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December 25th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 

Topic: New Theories Stating Troy was in Great Britain


I don't know what to make of the theories this fellow is putting forth, and I do have some doubts in some of his points. The trouble is, Troy and ancient Greece are just not my specialty. Can anyone help me to either confirm or rip appart this fellow's theories?

http://www.troy-in-england.co.uk/index.htm

http://phdamste.tripod.com/trojan.html
December 25th, 2004  
Charge 7
 
 
Bwa ha ha ha! And Atlantis is in my swimming pool!

Maclaren and Schliemann are rolling in their graves if they aren't just laughing their boney asses off!

Try this page for something a tad more accurate.

http://www.iit.edu/~agunsal/truva/truva/truva.html
December 25th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Oh I certainly know that much information. What I lack is sufficient in-depth knowledge with which to be able to either confirm or refute what this dude is saying.

Revisionist histories can be interesting, and every so often they actually get something right (very rarely).
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December 25th, 2004  
Charge 7
 
 
Uh did you read that page I listed and follow any of the links in it? Quite a bit of detail there. Also what more do you need to refute that idiocy than the fact that Troy was already found?
December 25th, 2004  
Doppleganger
 
 
It seems unlikely but I'm no expert at all on this and unless you do indeed have some good knowledge of this subject I don't think you could reject it out of hand no matter how silly it may seem.

It's like the various theories that Atlantis really existed and was in present-day Indonesia, under the Atlantic Ocean or even Antartica. Unless you have some knowledge on the matter can you really say for sure whether it's bs or not?
December 25th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
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Originally Posted by Charge_7
Uh did you read that page I listed and follow any of the links in it? Quite a bit of detail there. Also what more do you need to refute that idiocy than the fact that Troy was already found?
Well, according to this guy, there has been "great controversy" since Schliemann found Troy over "inconsistencies" in geographical layout and "lack of physical evidence" of a battlefield large enough to be the one Homer was writing about.

The interesting thing is that this fellow appears to have conveniently skipped the fact that before it was discovered, the Trojan War written about by Homer was believed to have been 100% myth. There was no "longstanding controversy" of any sort because everyone believed that Homer made the whole thing up.

Still, I would be interested in hearing greater depth as to why this guy is or isn't full of crap.
December 25th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Oh man... did someone just break the world record on crap?
Troy was in what is today Turkey. History from those times were accurate. They had good maps of their territories and the lands surrounding them. Just because they're an ancient civilization doesn't mean they're a bunch of morons. In fact, the more we learn about these civilizations, the more we realize that in many areas, the main difference between us and them was electricity. They had all kinds of advanced techniques on all fields... philosophy, science.. you name it... including Geography.
December 25th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger
It seems unlikely but I'm no expert at all on this and unless you do indeed have some good knowledge of this subject I don't think you could reject it out of hand no matter how silly it may seem.
See, that's the whole thing I'm driving at. It would be nice to kick this guy's theory around and see where he's coming from.
December 25th, 2004  
rocco
 
imo impossible, how could greece adequately supply a huge army at britain? greeks didnt even reach there... and i doubt britain even had a large city like troy.

also some people believe atlantis is where peru is today, i believe it was either an island of greece or west turkey, or even just a city on the coast line, which was destroyed by something earthquake related, like a tsunami and maybe thats why they never found it yet, because it wouldnt just be under water but also under earth.
December 25th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Well, the guy's theory is that none of the events described in the Illiad happened anywhere close to Greece, and that it was one of those legends that migrated with the group of people that ended up in Greece. It has certainly happened before in history.

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also some people believe atlantis is where peru is today, i believe it was either an island of greece or west turkey, or even just a city on the coast line, which was destroyed by something earthquake related, like a tsunami and maybe thats why they never found it yet, because it wouldnt just be under water but also under earth.
Saw a special on History Channel (I think). They found a city in the Mediterranean that could have been Atlantis. The timeframe was about right and it was buried by a tsunami.