Nazi salute originated in the USA - Page 2




 
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December 2nd, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
I'll be honest with ya. I didn't actually read the entire page. Missileer seems to agree with the page on the point that the pledge had one part that was similar to the Nazi, Fascist and Francist salutes prior to WW2.
December 2nd, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 
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Originally Posted by Mohmar Deathstrike
I'll be honest with ya. I didn't actually read the entire page.
Therein lies the error of your ways.
December 2nd, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
Nope. My point is, I don't care what the page has to say, besides the fact that a salute similar to the Nazi salute was used in American schools during the pledge of allegiance.
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December 5th, 2005  
CanadianCombat
 
 
i dont diagree witht the fact that they used the salute in american schools a long time ago but hitler did get the idea from the romans. im sure he had no idea that the little kids in schools did the same thing.
December 7th, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 
Next thing I expect from Mohmar is that the Navajo indians of the American southwest were the originators of the swastika.
December 15th, 2005  
mmarsh
 
 
You are all wrong.
It was Charlie Chaplin in "the dictator"
December 16th, 2005  
godofthunder9010
 
 
See, that's the trick with a lot of online sources. Much of them spout a great and grand load of BS. The "Nazi salute" was originated by the Roman Empire as a salute to the Emperor. It was wholesale copied by Musolini who saw himself as a modern day Caesar and wished to restore the greatness of the Roman Empire. Hitler copied a whole lot from Musolini, who was sortof his hero for awhile (till he proved to be more of a liability than an ally that is).

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Next thing I expect from Mohmar is that the Navajo indians of the American southwest were the originators of the swastika.
Actually, you might be amused to find out (if you didn't already know) that the Swastika is from Budhist/Hindu origins. Its a symbol of luck, though I believe that Hitler may have altered the symbol slightly. Why did Hitler use something so very non-German? I always figured he did so because of where he borrowed the word "Aryan" and idea of "master race" from. The Aryans were a white, Indoeuropean people who invaded modern day India and for all intents and purposes, created India's culture and social structure. They were vastly outnumbered by the black/dark people that they had conquered, yet they managed to remain dominant in society for thousands of years. The general idea that "white is noble, black is commoner" is still of some effect in India today. You can see why Hitler liked to borrow from them and point to them as an example. He and others like to revised and make up the "fact" that "the Aryans came from Northern Europe" which is a load of crap and unprovable.

EDIT: Better put in my sources or people are going to thing I'm making all this stuff up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race
December 21st, 2005  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by phoenix80
propaganda is different than historical issues
Yes but isnt it a well known cliche that history is written by the victor therefore it is probably all propaganda?

December 21st, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 
Mighty big paintbrush you got there Monty, be careful to mask off or you'll lose the ability to see through the windows.

I would be more likely to agree, and perhaps you would agree as well, with the statement that all history is biased. That does not necessarily make it propaganda.
January 15th, 2006  
redcoat
 
 
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Originally Posted by Mohmar Deathstrike
Nope. My point is, I don't care what the page has to say, besides the fact that a salute similar to the Nazi salute was used in American schools during the pledge of allegiance.
So what ???
This was before this type of salute became associated with the evils of nazism.
In truth there is no connection