N.Z. fall out




 
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Boots
 
March 16th, 2019  
George
 

Topic: N.Z. fall out


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...7Kz&ocid=edgsp
March 16th, 2019  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by George
I doubt anyone will have an issue with changes, I have licenses all the way up to collectors so I already have 6 monthly inspections and jump through hoops to keep them but that is the cost of collecting them and I knew it when I applied.

I would like to see us at least return to registering individual weapons to the owner as that will give a better picture of who has what and who is stockpiling.

If after this the changes are manageable then I will make the changes, if they aren't then I will make the ones I want to keep inert and ditch the rest.
In the end, I don't need a gun for anything and I can get all the meat I could ever want from the local supermarket.

One thing I can guarantee is that we are not going to follow the US system and put up with mass shootings on a regular basis our politicians will do something.
4 Weeks Ago  
MontyB
 
 
I guess just to prove the point the first changes to our laws will be coming next week.

From the limited information at hand they seem to be sensible.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opi...apons#comments

Currently I have A, B, C and E license's I will probably consider giving up the B and E classifications as I really don't have a use for them but that will be a family decision.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12213947
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Boots
4 Weeks Ago  
George
 
So..the scarier they look the more they are restricted.....
4 Weeks Ago  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by George
So..the scarier they look the more they are restricted.....
Alternatively the scarier they look the more lunatics are drawn to them.
The law changes announced yesterday will affect very few people (about 4% of gun owners in the country) and are supported by most of the rural (who use firearms more than most) and sporting gun community as well as a sizable number of the dealers as such I am not going to argue with them.
4 Weeks Ago  
henryb
 
World
'We just want the guns back': New Zealand announces immediate ban of assault rifles
USA TODAY Mike James,USA TODAY 3 hours ago
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New Zealand is banning all assault rifles, high-capacity magazines and military-style semi-automatic rifles in response to the nation's deadliest massacre in history, the country's prime minister announced Thursday.

Jacinda Ardern said the ban goes into effect immediately and would be followed by legislation next month. New Zealand's citizens should make arrangements to turn in weapons banned under the new laws, Ardern told the nation in a live television announcement.
4 Weeks Ago  
lljadw
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
I doubt anyone will have an issue with changes, I have licenses all the way up to collectors so I already have 6 monthly inspections and jump through hoops to keep them but that is the cost of collecting them and I knew it when I applied.

I would like to see us at least return to registering individual weapons to the owner as that will give a better picture of who has what and who is stockpiling.

If after this the changes are manageable then I will make the changes, if they aren't then I will make the ones I want to keep inert and ditch the rest.
In the end, I don't need a gun for anything and I can get all the meat I could ever want from the local supermarket.

One thing I can guarantee is that we are not going to follow the US system and put up with mass shootings on a regular basis our politicians will do something.
There are a lot of people who find this decisicion suicidal : it is an unconditional surrender from a marxist PM to the crime lobby .
4 Weeks Ago  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
There are a lot of people who find this decisicion suicidal : it is an unconditional surrender from a marxist PM to the crime lobby .
Well people are entitled to their opinion but I doubt it is one shared by anything close to the majority of New Zealanders.
Our law changes affect less than 4% of the firearms owners in the country and have the support of the largest hunting groups as well as the farming community (who use firearms the most) in my opinion if the people most affected are ok with the changes I don't see an issue.

Incidentally who have we surrendered too, I am unaware of the crime lobbies declaration of war or their existence for that matter.
4 Weeks Ago  
lljadw
 
Before the attack there were 3 groups in NZ who had semi-automatic weapons
1 Leos and military
2 Members of the public : innocent people
3 Criminals
After the attack the marxist PM decided to act, NOT against the criminals, but against those who are not involved,with as result that only 2 groups remain with semi-automatic weapons
1 Leos and military
2 Criminals
As it is a fact that leos and military can not/no longer protect the public against the criminals, Ardern is preventing the public to protect itself and is thus aiding the criminals ;something that is not surprising from a marxist .
If within a few months, an other criminal wil massacre 50 people with a pistol/or an ordinary rifle , I suppose that Ardern will ban pistols and rifles ?
The massacre did NOT happen because the existence of semi-automatic weapons, but because the criminal decided to kill people .
Ardern is now going after the semi-automatic weapons, the next move will be to go after the hunters, etc .

To say that weapons are the cause, is to innocent the culprits .
Weapons do not kill, people kill .
4 Weeks Ago  
-- Dusty
 
 
If the Kiwis wish to ban firearms, who are we to criticize? It's not our place as NZ is not our home.



As for here in the US, we'll fight like crazy MF'ers if they want to ban guns. Not because we love violence, but because having firearms is a part of our rights under the US Constitution.


The difference between NZ & US politics is immense. Two different countries and two different political schemes.


lljadw, I really do think you owe Monty an apology. But that's my opinion.
 


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