A Can of Man
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N Korea declares itself a nuclear power
A Can of Man
Je suis aware
Yeah... stuff like that.
I think the NK nuclear capability is more threatening to China than to the US.
If NK decides to invade Beijing with nuclear bombs, it takes less than 15 minutes to destroy the capital city. NK has very intricate underground city for its elite (2 million), which will survive a massive retaliation.
Will NK do so? Who knows?
China has often been conquered by much smaller neighboring states in history.. like Mongolia, Manchuria, Japan...
When these smaller states occupy the Chinese capital, other Chinese provinces are just a matter of time.
If NK decides to invade Beijing with nuclear bombs, it takes less than 15 minutes to destroy the capital city. NK has very intricate underground city for its elite (2 million), which will survive a massive retaliation.
Will NK do so? Who knows?
China has often been conquered by much smaller neighboring states in history.. like Mongolia, Manchuria, Japan...
When these smaller states occupy the Chinese capital, other Chinese provinces are just a matter of time.
A Can of Man
Je suis aware
Vitaly said:
That's what makes life interesting.
It's funny when it became 2000, people thought the world would become a peaceful heaven just because that front digit changed from 1 to 2.
WorldWatcher
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I read something on cnn and Jane's defense about 3-4 months ago (maybe less) about Japan changing some of their constitution to sell arms to the US. Japan planned on buying Anti-nuclear ballistic missles to help lessen the threat of nukes from NK. I dont know if they bought any yet but the U.S. and Japan are working closely to help defend the area from nuclear attack. I also read about 2-3 days ago that the US is ready to send 40% of our naval forces and 70% of our marine forces into south korea immediatley.Also Condoleeza Rice met with the Chinese foreign minister to urge them to convince NK to stop their ambitions and china seemed willing to do so.She also traveled to SK on monday. Just a little imput.
A Can of Man
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North Korea seems to be getting a little desperate now that China's position on the nuke is becoming more and more clear.
Chocobo_Blitzer
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I didn't know China and Japan were feelin' iffy about one another, I thought they were happy traders and such.
japan has just recently started to deploy troops on DiaoYu island (claimed by china, taiwan and japan), a island near china....
that really pisses china off, i think china not only send nuke subs over japan, but even destroyers go over the boundries....
and japan just passed law allowing taiwanese visit japan without visa
i think it is the worst period of time in sino-japan relationship since 1980s
that really pisses china off, i think china not only send nuke subs over japan, but even destroyers go over the boundries....
and japan just passed law allowing taiwanese visit japan without visa
i think it is the worst period of time in sino-japan relationship since 1980s
WorldWatcher
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Yea China and Japan has been on edge, and China has sent subs and such into Japanese claimed waters.However Japan isnt nearly as concerned with China as they are with NK. The fact is that China wouldn't risk invading Japan anytime soon. Japan is still under the U.S.'s military umbrella,even more so now since Asia seems to be quickly becoming a hotspot, and Japan provides a window into Asia for the U.S.
Anyways China will most likely keep to their word to help stop NK since if they don't they will be indirectly responsible for being their friend, which will offect them politically and economically and China can't take that risk. the fact that NK did this seems to me as kind of a sign of desperation. They need something to hold over other nation's heads as blackmail and power so they can be relatively important.Kim Jong-Il is just on a power trip, not much else to say.
I heard someone on this thread say that economic sanctions hurt the people of NK since he takes the money from them,which starves them, however, I would guess that without he sanctions he would just take THAT much more from the people .
I don't see NK prospering with Kim Jong-Il at the wheel.Any agreement that is reached will only be temporary with him. It would be like taking spoiled milk and putting it back in the fridge and hope it would be better the next day :? .
Anyways thats just my opinion. :rambo:
Anyways China will most likely keep to their word to help stop NK since if they don't they will be indirectly responsible for being their friend, which will offect them politically and economically and China can't take that risk. the fact that NK did this seems to me as kind of a sign of desperation. They need something to hold over other nation's heads as blackmail and power so they can be relatively important.Kim Jong-Il is just on a power trip, not much else to say.
I heard someone on this thread say that economic sanctions hurt the people of NK since he takes the money from them,which starves them, however, I would guess that without he sanctions he would just take THAT much more from the people
.I don't see NK prospering with Kim Jong-Il at the wheel.Any agreement that is reached will only be temporary with him. It would be like taking spoiled milk and putting it back in the fridge and hope it would be better the next day :? .
Anyways thats just my opinion. :rambo:
if u think china truly keeps its promise to help U.S to hold north korea, u r too childish....
who is the biggest supporter of North korea, who gives million tons of oil to north korea? who gives weapons to North korea?
china is playing the north korea card just like U.S is playing the taiwan card against china.....it is just another part of internal political game...
who is the biggest supporter of North korea, who gives million tons of oil to north korea? who gives weapons to North korea?
china is playing the north korea card just like U.S is playing the taiwan card against china.....it is just another part of internal political game...
silent driller
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Zyca said:
Mmmm... nookuler power...
Darcia said:
en...ur idea is very immature and u look at things only in a very very low level of thinking, rather than looking at this problem in a level of global politics and strategies....
north korea is an important strategic frontier for china, concerning not just now, but for the later generations of chinese ppl, the threat from japan or U.S have never been reduced, and actually increasing.....
having north korea as an ally or strategic buffer zone is a for china to protect itself and its manchuria area (the most heavily industrialized region in china)...
if u just look at things in china now, (rather than in a scope of past 5000 years of china, and next 5000 years of china), u can just say china is scared of a democratic country bla, bla, back to ur 1950s Red Threat theories or cold war method of thinking, very low level..
i think right now, perhaps u read more news, china and japan are having the worst relationiship perhaps since WW2....a bloody armed clash is possible on the island of Diaoyu (claimed by china and japan) near china's coast...as japan has recently said they will deploy troops there,
also, japan has just listed china as a major threat in its new defence principles...japan also supports taiwan as it just allowed taiwan's independist leader to visit japan
and i think while japan is playing taiwan and Diaoyu cards with china, china is playing North korea card in return, allowing north korea to declare its nuke capability (i seriously doubt that china didn't help north korea on this one, or giving money, giving other resources, as china is the largest support (practical support, giving real things) for north korea).