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January 3rd, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JT1959
Thank you for your feedback Monty !
Do not worry Mate. I still have around 400 German objects left, so are not empty yet. Since you both have clear ideas about the awards, then I expect of course that you are sitting with the knowledge as well. If you do not have the knowledge, it would surely have been a mistake to judge them regard to originality?

However, I am no longer authorized to put up more pictures in this thread
(must read a little on the forum pages to find a solution)
Sorry at the same time for possible strange sentences, as I do not speak English on a daily basis.

Regards
JT1959
Hi JT,

I have seen the suggestions to contact an expert. I know about one expert in Sweden. He has been on the Swedish version of BBC Antique Road Show. He works here

http://www.probusauktioner.se/

take care,

G
January 3rd, 2012  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JT1959
Many wise recommendations here eventually

Here a little wish from my side:
It could cause major economic losses to new members, if the board members commented that "I regret to say this, but I am quite sour that they are Reproduction" or "that they can not be original because the quality is too good." If new members receive this feedback, it may soon happen that objects are destroyed or sold as replicas at a fraction of the value.

I'm not saying this to scare members from commenting (Members Posts are appreciated and very welcome) You just have to be careful in terms of how one express himself.

Always recommended other members to consult experts, if you are in doubt yourself.

Regards
JT1959
I would point out that no one is saying that they are reproductions because the quality is to good I am saying that there condition would raise suspicion that they may be reproductions.
January 3rd, 2012  
Der Alte
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JT1959
Many wise recommendations here eventually

Here a little wish from my side:
It could cause major economic losses to new members, if the board members commented that "I regret to say this, but I am quite sour that they are Reproduction" or "that they can not be original because the quality is too good." If new members receive this feedback, it may soon happen that objects are destroyed or sold as replicas at a fraction of the value.

I'm not saying this to scare members from commenting (Members Posts are appreciated and very welcome) You just have to be careful in terms of how one express himself.

Always recommended other members to consult experts, if you are in doubt yourself.

Regards
JT1959
Sorry but this is nonsense.
No one forced you, it was a decision you took. I came with my own personal assessment, that was it. I'm no oracle.
It is not forbidden to think for yourself.
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January 3rd, 2012  
JT1959
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Alte
Sorry but this is nonsense.
No one forced you, it was a decision you took. I came with my own personal assessment, that was it. I'm no oracle.
It is not forbidden to think for yourself.
Please.....
Why so aggressive?
I just came with a friendly suggestion to be careful how we express ourselves to members without knowledge.

Do you really think that is nonsense?
...and I really was not indicated that anyone has forced me to do anything.

I deeply regret that I apparently have hurt your feelings it was not meant to be like that !

Take care
Regards from Norway
JT1959
January 3rd, 2012  
JT1959
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostrider
Hi JT,

I have seen the suggestions to contact an expert. I know about one expert in Sweden. He has been on the Swedish version of BBC Antique Road Show. He works here
http://www.probusauktioner.se/

take care,
G
Thank you for the link G

When it comes to evaluation and taxation of my items from WWII, I use the expertise and experts on WAF (Wehrmacht Awards Forum.com) and GCA (German Combat Awards.com) for the German items. I close no purchase before both of these have considered and approved them as original. This is the only safe way to build up a collection today since there are large quantities of copies on the market. This routine has saved me so much money the last 2 years, and has resulted in a collection consisting only of original effects.
Membership and renomeet also means that it has not created any problems with return of the copy-items I have sent back to auction houses and dealers around the world

I have since the spring of 2009 bought roughly a total of 400 German medals, awards, helmets, officer caps, uniforms, daggers, bayonets, etc from WWII. Same period I have also returned more than 50 objects, as they have proven to be copy / counterfeit or fantasy objects. In addition, I also refrained from many purchases as I have discovered the copies myself. Before I started my collection, I bought a lot of books / reference books, to learn as much as possible about how separate the copies from the original (good advice I will share with others who are thinking of starting a collection). Especially important is the knowledge and expertise when it comes to collecting on the top items in mint quality as I have done. These look, most often quite freshly made, and as others have mentioned, one is soon suspicious. It is then that knowledge is power!

Best to all of you !
Regards from Norway
JT1959
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January 3rd, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JT1959
Thank you for the link G

When it comes to evaluation and taxation of my items from WWII, I use the expertise and experts on WAF (Wehrmacht Awards Forum.com) and GCA (German Combat Awards.com) for the German items. I close no purchase before both of these have considered and approved them as original. This is the only safe way to build up a collection today since there are large quantities of copies on the market. This routine has saved me so much money the last 2 years, and has resulted in a collection consisting only of original effects.
Membership and renomeet also means that it has not created any problems with return of the copy-items I have sent back to auction houses and dealers around the world

I have since the spring of 2009 bought roughly a total of 400 German medals, awards, helmets, officer caps, uniforms, daggers, bayonets, etc from WWII. Same period I have also returned more than 50 objects, as they have proven to be copy / counterfeit or fantasy objects. In addition, I also refrained from many purchases as I have discovered the copies myself. Before I started my collection, I bought a lot of books / reference books, to learn as much as possible about how separate the copies from the original (good advice I will share with others who are thinking of starting a collection). Especially important is the knowledge and expertise when it comes to collecting on the top items in mint quality as I have done. These look, most often quite freshly made, and as others have mentioned, one is soon suspicious. It is then that knowledge is power!

Best to all of you !
Regards from Norway
JT1959
You are welcome,

I am not a collector myself. I have a question to all of you in this field. How do you view the people who are out and digging for artifacts from the dual world wars? Some seem to be serious, others...

take care,

G
January 4th, 2012  
42RM
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JT1959
Please.....
Why so aggressive?
I just came with a friendly suggestion to be careful how we express ourselves to members without knowledge.

Do you really think that is nonsense?
...and I really was not indicated that anyone has forced me to do anything.

I deeply regret that I apparently have hurt your feelings it was not meant to be like that !

Take care
Regards from Norway
JT1959
You could sound a little accusingly and when you don´t have English as your first language, it´s easy to misinterpret.

You must be prepared for the fact that most here have military background and that we say what we mean. We are harsh but honest. And if you don´t agree to something I said then tell me to go **** myself. In my world it's not an insult.

And also welcome to this forum. Impressive collection you have. Let's hear some more about the various medals and badges you have.
January 5th, 2012  
JT1959
 
 
Thanks for your feedback 42RM !

I now understand gradually that this is not a forum for collectors of militaria, so it's probably not that interesting with pictures from my collection (only old effects). I will post some pictures gradually, so we'll see the reaction. If they dont like it, then **** themself

Regards from Norway
JT1959

Here a few German Daggers:
Heer Dagger (Alcoso)
Kriegsmarine Dagger (Eickhorn)
Luftwaffe Dagger 2nd model (WKC Solingen)
SA Dagger (RZM-M7/42)
SS Dagger M33 (Böker Solingen)
Luftwaffe Dagger 2nd model (unmarked)

....and some WWII Medals from Norway

And they are all Originals items !
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January 5th, 2012  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JT1959
Thanks for your feedback 42RM !

I now understand gradually that this is not a forum for collectors of militaria, so it's probably not that interesting with pictures from my collection (only old effects). I will post some pictures gradually, so we'll see the reaction. If they dont like it, then **** themself

Regards from Norway
JT1959

Here a few German Daggers:
Heer Dagger (Alcoso)
Kriegsmarine Dagger (Eickhorn)
Luftwaffe Dagger 2nd model (WKC Solingen)
SA Dagger (RZM-M7/42)
SS Dagger M33 (Böker Solingen)
Luftwaffe Dagger 2nd model (unmarked)

....and some WWII Medals from Norway

And they are all Originals items !
Well I dont know about others but I find them very interesting, when you live in a country that really does not have a military or architectual history stretching back thousands of years these images are very interesting.
January 6th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
Perhaps I'm a little off Topic, but pertinent never the less.

What set up do you have for photographing the items in your collection? I really like your choice of what looks like a red baize background. I am not a Militaria collector but I am seriously interested in the digitisation of slides, negatives plus macro items and Documents.



This is my home brewed copy stand that I built out of two old enlargers and a backlit slide viewer. All lit with variable intensity cold LED lamps. Sorry about the quality but it was taken off a video clip.
 


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