Muslim insult to HM Forces killed in Afghanistan

Here's another point of view, I have to agree the law is inconsistent. However since we are effectively at war with Muslim extremists, this probably makes all the difference. Perhaps the home office has circumstantial evidence that Islam4UK has more than a mere passive interest in terrorism? who knows.

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The reasoning behind Alan Johnson’s ban is rather that Islam4UK is held to ‘unlawfully glorify the commission or preparation of acts of terrorism’. That is an interesting choice of word. The restriction is not upon advocacy, justification, or even mere apologia, but upon glorification.

Meaning what, exactly? Well, in the words of the legislation, ‘“glorification” includes any form of praise or celebration, and cognate expressions are to be construed accordingly.’ But isn’t there a difference between writing a pornographic novel that glorifies rape, conspiracy to commit rape, and rape itself?

It boils down to this; to be in a group that takes a positive view of any project deemed terrorist by the government of the day becomes a criminal offence punishable be ten years in prison. That’s a decade behind bars on the say so of the state, for what amounts to nothing more thoughtcrime.

Come to that, there was a time when the African National Congress enjoyed mainstream support in the Labour Party, even though Thatcher famously branded the ANC as, well, terrorists. Any notion of ‘unlawful glorification’ as a serious offence is monstrous in its ramifications.

In a democracy, it has no place on the statute books.

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/01/13/the-state-is-wrong-to-ban-thought-crime/
 
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Actually Muslim extremism is waging war on us. It calls death and destruction down upon us, supports attacks upon us, aims to destroy our culture and replace it with a non-democratic religious tyranny; a twisted version at that even.

They aim to bring us to our knees, and we are paying to keep them in luxury to help them do so.

They have nothing but hatred to offer.
 
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I think this group SHOULD be allowed to march ...

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The dogs and water cannon, should be turned loose on them.​
A "Cat-O-Nine-Tails" wouldn't be out of line for the organizers.


Bottom line ..
I am sick and tired of everybody making excuses for every two-bit Muslim group that comes out in support of our enemies.

I am NOT in favor of political correctness ..or .. supportive of any group that is.
 
Chief bones, you really dont get it.

What if you lived in a Nazi regime? Dont tell me that it's impossible, it happened before. The democratic system is made so we all have basic rights. And the right to sound your opinion is part of it.

If we start today to shut down every opinion we dont like... We would shut the communists, because nobody likes them... Then the green political groups, because they are bad for business, and then at the end... We will in a world where we say "amen" to anything the government say...

Come on... Your mistake is very simple. You let your emotions rule you. You hate these religious extermists... So you want to lose the dogs on them...

We define civilized people by their ability to reason rather than to feel.
 
How about we just make it a law where you can't insult soldiers, they've done it for blacks, jews, homosexuals, etc. Or does this go against your idea of democracy LeMask?
 
Sure, you can do that. Its a little better... Because it's not arbitrary but a law.

Why not? It's sad... But banning a march is sad too...

You think that these religious extremists are shocking? what about the people who want to conquer the world in the name of capitalism? marxism, socialism, communism? Aryan superiority? ... They arent so different from the others... Just a religiously flavored rather than with the common economic/politic flavor...
 
There is one major problem with this entire issue. As LeMask has stated very well, everyone has the right to voice their opinions. That is what democracy is. Yet at the same time nobody likes to be told that what their country is doing is wrong when we are clearly fighting evil. It's a hard thing to balance and this is what politics is about. Personally, I think everyone should voice their opinion. That is what we vote for anyway? However I do also believe that if a political group or whatever decides to insult not only a particular race of people but, in this case, nearly the whole country then there should be restrictions. However, banning them? This may just cause more issues.
 
Wallabies, you are absolutely right, and absolutely wrong at the same time...

Democracy is the right to elect our leaders. On this point, you are right.

But on the second hand, to make this "situation" exist, you have to give the people a lot of rights.

Just go get experts, and tell them what do you need to make this democracy exist, and they will give you a list of elements. One of them is the right of free speech.

If you silence a political opinion, you violate the right to vote/elect a leader freely. So the right to vote is nothing without to right to express an opinion.

And I would go further, without a strong social security... There is no democracy. Because it was proven, that the poor/sick/hungry dont express their real opinions in politics... There is serious studies about that.

The citizens (all of them) have to feel perfectly safe for a democracy to exist...

And we have so much to learn from each others... Silencing a population is just plain stupid...

A little example for you. If you were a devout Muslim, you would have never made such a mistake. Because the prophet Muhammed told the Muslims to give themselves the means to succeed. It's the way of the "ihssane" and you can translate it by "the way to excellence". If you want to be a soldier, go train and equip yourself with the best mankind can offer in soldiering, you want to be a doctor, can learn with the best doctors the earth can give you... etc...

You believe in democracy... And you dont even know what it takes to achieve such an ideal...

You would have been a terrible Muslim... I think you could have been a terrorist if you were born a Muslim...

Just kidding... seriously... Kidding seriously...
 
Can we harvest for organs? 1$ a piece is a big waste... There is useful people we might save...

Or we can make dog food...
 
Only a few Muslims hate pigs... The most retarded ones.

We dont eat dogs, but it's not a reason to scream like idiots when we see a cute little doggie...

I know a Mulim dude who got a cut little vietnamese piggy as a pet... and he said (while joking) that his religion allows him to eat it in a survival situation... and then he added "human flesh too..." while looking at his wife in the eyes... (note: in French we say "elle est à croquer" and it means "she is cute." but the translation is: "You could shew her"... )

I love jokes about religion... Not the most subtle, but just enough to be funny...

So I vote for the swine heard too. Perfect weapon... Hits the extremists and leaves the moderate unharmed. Are we funding that yet? Because it's really promissing.

Lets promote Glenn to general... He is ready.
 
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