Most Neglected Chapters in Military History??




 
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December 4th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 

Topic: Most Neglected Chapters in Military History??


Just what it says, what parts of Military History of the World tend to get less attention that they deserve??
December 4th, 2004  
MadeInChina
 
chinese civil war, the japanese agression aginsit china, the manchurian invasion by soviet union, operation mars, battle of kursk( though some ppl pay attention to it).

and 1944 soviet offensives, though not noted as much, just as a passive success, the soviets still had alot of diffculties
December 4th, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
I would have to say the Spanish-American War, it was a war that made the United States into an empire almost overnight and it proved that we could take the war to the enemy, making the US a Superpower and finally getting us the recognition we deserved. Of course we then stopped building up our military and by the time WWI came around we had the 16th largest Army in the world.
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December 4th, 2004  
Darcia
 
World War 1, you always hear WW2 this WW2 that, never hear of the importance of WW1.
December 4th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
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Originally Posted by Flak88
chinese civil war, the japanese agression aginsit china, the manchurian invasion by soviet union, operation mars, battle of kursk(though some ppl pay attention to it).

and 1944 soviet offensives, though not noted as much, just as a passive success, the soviets still had alot of diffculties
The Eastern Front of WW2 is hugely under-rated.

The Sino-Japanese Wars and WW2 in China get almost no coverage at all, yet involved HUGE armies, enormous destruction and incredible loss of life.

Pre 1800 China and East Asia is very, very poorly covered. The Manchu invasion and subsequent domination of China has tremendous relevance today, but is barely understood by most.

The Arabic Empires from 600 AD - 1918 AD get lousy coverage and had an enormous impact on the world.
December 4th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Yup, the carving up of certain parts of China is hugely underrated while it is essentially the story of a power that was the envy of the world for thousands of years that had rotted away down to almost nothing.

Eastern Front World War II is underrated. After all, it was here that the bulk of the German army was destroyed.

World War I. For the amount of crap that stirred up over nothing, it's largely underrated. You can think of World War I and World War II as being the same conflict. World War II was so directly, and shamelessly linked with World War I that it's hard to ignore.

Invasion of Finland by the USSR. Lessons learned here would determine the tactics the Soviets would use against the Germans.
December 4th, 2004  
Doppleganger
 
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Invasion of Finland by the USSR. Lessons learned here would determine the tactics the Soviets would use against the Germans.
This isn't really true. The Red Army were humiliatingly defeated by the Finns. They were also humiliatingly defeated by the Wehrmacht in 1941/42. They didn't learn anything until they began to reform out of necessity, i.e. most of the army no longer existed so they had to start from scratch.

And to answer the thread question:

* Eastern Front in WW2
* Mongols foray into Europe
* Later Roman battles, i.e. Chalons
* Burma Campaign WW2
* Japanese conquest of SE Asia in WW2

There are tons of battles/wars that don't get much of a mention. I could go on for ages on this subject.
December 4th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger

This isn't really true. The Red Army were humiliatingly defeated by the Finns. They were also humiliatingly defeated by the Wehrmacht in 1941/42. They didn't learn anything until they began to reform out of necessity, i.e. most of the army no longer existed so they had to start from scratch.
That is why they learned how to fight. By losing. This is a key reason why the Soviets changed their main weapon from the rifle to the submachine gun, something that was a speicality of the Finns. In city fighting that would happen at places like Stalingrad the Germans would get bitten hard because of it.
December 5th, 2004  
swordrapier
 
I don't know I think that i am a little bit of midevilist but I think that the United States could stand a little work on Agincourt, revanna ( I apologize for the spelling). There is also a battle in wich a group of Middle classes persons fought off Teutonic Knights with Muskets while traveling in a rolling circle of wagons I would like to find out more about this battle oh um like its name ect.

Personally i could use more information on the gaelic wars and the roman civil war.

Just a have a question about the chinese civil war. Wich one?
December 6th, 2004  
MadeInChina
 
the most recent one:

they should've covered hte battle of huai hai, in wihch more than 1 million units has been in battle.

a historical battle i china:
during the 3 kindoms, a battle( dont kno its name anymroe) occured between 700,000 northern units agnist chao chao's 70,000 troops, guess who won????