Most impressive military achievement in the 20th Century? - Page 6




View Poll Results :Most impressive military achievement in the 20th Century?
The Japanese victory over Russia, 1905. 6 2.47%
The Allied victory in WWI, 1914-1918. 3 1.23%
The Finnish stand against the USSR, 1940. 46 18.93%
The Axis victories in the first half of WWII, 1939-1942. 29 11.93%
The Allied victory in WWII, 1939-1945. 39 16.05%
The Israeli victory in the Israeli Independence War, 1948. 11 4.53%
The UN/USA victory in the Korean War 1950-1953. 2 0.82%
The Israeli victory in the Six Days War, 1967. 30 12.35%
The Arab relative succes in the Yom Kippur War, 1973. 3 1.23%
The Israeli Victory in the Yom Kippur War, 1973. 10 4.12%
The North-Vietnamese Victory in the Vietnam conflicts, 1945-1975. 20 8.23%
The Mujahidin victory in the Afghan War, 1979-1989. 7 2.88%
The Hizballa succses in the Invasion of Lebanon,1982-2000. 4 1.65%
The UN/USA victory in the Gulf War, 1991. 11 4.53%
Other. 22 9.05%
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June 6th, 2006  
sven hassell
 
 
I think the most impessive has to be the a_bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
To cause that much carnage at the touch of a button(figure of speech for all you USAF pedants) is something that occured as a once only and hopefuly never again experience.



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!
June 7th, 2006  
zander_0633
 
 
I voted for the Vietnam! They must be great!
June 22nd, 2006  
Easy-8
 
 
I am shocked no one has made any mention of the Chechen victory in the first Chechen War!

Chechnya is a little tiny place in southern Russia. It was fought from 1994-1996 and the Russians were beaten by Chechyna despite
overwhelming manpower, weaponry, and air support. Whole armored columns were destroyed. When the 131st Brigade entered Grozny and occupied the train station it was destroyed at a loss of 800 of its 1000 men including its commander Colonel Ivan Savin and the destruction of 20 of its 26 MBTs. Snipers all over Chechnya struck fear into the hearts of the federal infantry.

After three months the Russians finally took Grozny then in 1996 Shamil Basaev returned to Grozny with a rebel force of 1,500 and drove out the 12,000 federals. The 900 men of the 276th regiment was sent in only to be driven back with at the loss of 150 KIA and 300 WIA.

The Khasavjurt Peace Agreement was signed and the federals withdrew. What is really rather interesting is that Pavel Grachev boasted he could take all of Chechnya with two airborne regiments within a few days (what a retard).
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June 24th, 2006  
LeEnfield
 
 
When I look back on what was achieved on the landings on D Day, and the planning that went into all this. There were some 5,000 ships, several thousand planes both fighter and bombers. There were over a million men, several artificial harbours built and towed across with the invasion force. A undersea pipeline was laid to supply the allies with fuel, there was a vast range of tanks built to deal with every obstacle that they could think of. There several hundred thousand paratroopers and glider borne troops, and not a word got out to the Germans.
June 26th, 2006  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy-8
I am shocked no one has made any mention of the Chechen victory in the first Chechen War!

Chechnya is a little tiny place in southern Russia. It was fought from 1994-1996 and the Russians were beaten by Chechyna despite
overwhelming manpower, weaponry, and air support. Whole armored columns were destroyed. When the 131st Brigade entered Grozny and occupied the train station it was destroyed at a loss of 800 of its 1000 men including its commander Colonel Ivan Savin and the destruction of 20 of its 26 MBTs. Snipers all over Chechnya struck fear into the hearts of the federal infantry.

After three months the Russians finally took Grozny then in 1996 Shamil Basaev returned to Grozny with a rebel force of 1,500 and drove out the 12,000 federals. The 900 men of the 276th regiment was sent in only to be driven back with at the loss of 150 KIA and 300 WIA.

The Khasavjurt Peace Agreement was signed and the federals withdrew. What is really rather interesting is that Pavel Grachev boasted he could take all of Chechnya with two airborne regiments within a few days (what a retard).
Wow I didn't know these details. Yes, the Russian military has a long bloody history about keeping their own losses high.
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Originally Posted by perseus
Which one do you think was the most impressive achievement by military forces in the 20th Century?

Impressive military achievements are usually due to an unexpected superiority in one or more of the following areas: planning, training/experience, tenacity/bravery, technology/equipment, intelligence, leadership, surprise, tactics, and strategy. However, this is usually accompanied by serious deficiencies on the other side as well. Luck also plays a major factor but is usually forgotten in place of one or more of the other positive factors.

I think you have an impressive list of candidates, but it is difficult to consider entire stretches of WW2 since these were effectively separate campaigns sometimes under the influence of different people and forces. So I suggest this list in order of achievement, for the following reasons:

German attack against the Western allies May 1940
Planning, Training/experience, tactics, strategy, leadership, so this has many of the elements. Scarred by the failure to cut of the British though.
The Israeli victory in the Six Days War, 1967
Training, technology, surprise, intelligence.
Communist forces against US and their allies in the second Indo china war (Vietnam)
Tenacity
The Finnish stand against the USSR, 1940.
Training, tactics, tenacity
Defence of Stalingrad & Uranus offensive
Planning, Strategy, Tenacity, Surprise
Rommel’s Desert offensives 1941/42
Surprise, tactics
Royal Navy Battle of the Atlantic 1940-43
Tactics, technology
Polish Warsaw uprising
Tenacity/bravery.
RAF Battle of Britain
Strategy, technology
I really like this summary. And your avatar
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger
With AWAC aircraft monitoring all air movement and J-Stars aircraft doing the same for ground forces the Iraqi's couldn't even fart without Allied military planners knowing about it.
Cool. Until now I thought JSTARS was a late 90s development.
June 28th, 2006  
Easy-8
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohmar Deathstrike
Wow I didn't know these details. Yes, the Russian military has a long bloody history about keeping their own losses high.
Aye.

The Russians have never really cared about loss of life in warfare. When we in the west have choosen to give more attention and training to single soldiers in the more eastern parts of the world soldiers (save the elite units) are still cannon fodder.
June 29th, 2006  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy-8
I am shocked no one has made any mention of the Chechen victory in the first Chechen War!

Chechnya is a little tiny place in southern Russia. It was fought from 1994-1996 and the Russians were beaten by Chechyna despite
overwhelming manpower, weaponry, and air support. Whole armored columns were destroyed. When the 131st Brigade entered Grozny and occupied the train station it was destroyed at a loss of 800 of its 1000 men including its commander Colonel Ivan Savin and the destruction of 20 of its 26 MBTs. Snipers all over Chechnya struck fear into the hearts of the federal infantry.

After three months the Russians finally took Grozny then in 1996 Shamil Basaev returned to Grozny with a rebel force of 1,500 and drove out the 12,000 federals. The 900 men of the 276th regiment was sent in only to be driven back with at the loss of 150 KIA and 300 WIA.

The Khasavjurt Peace Agreement was signed and the federals withdrew. What is really rather interesting is that Pavel Grachev boasted he could take all of Chechnya with two airborne regiments within a few days (what a retard).
Well, that's where the "OTHER" category comes in of course. I think that the Chechen/Russian War is kindof an unknown for most people. I don't know a great deal about it and no doubt, neither do a lot of other forum members. The accomplishments of the Chechnians are overshadowed by the fact that, in the end, they lost.
June 29th, 2006  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
Well, that's where the "OTHER" category comes in of course. I think that the Chechen/Russian War is kindof an unknown for most people. I don't know a great deal about it and no doubt, neither do a lot of other forum members. The accomplishments of the Chechnians are overshadowed by the fact that, in the end, they lost.
Yeah and now they're suffering under the bloodthirsty regime of whatshisface (that guy who's close to Putin and wears that hat).

Disclaimer: I'm not condoning Chechen terrorist activity, such as that in Beslan, that rock festival, or that movie theater (or was it an actual theater?).
June 29th, 2006  
Easy-8
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
Well, that's where the "OTHER" category comes in of course. I think that the Chechen/Russian War is kindof an unknown for most people. I don't know a great deal about it and no doubt, neither do a lot of other forum members. The accomplishments of the Chechnians are overshadowed by the fact that, in the end, they lost.
Well, they have yet to lose the Second Chechen War...
July 1st, 2006  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
Or is it the third?