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Topic: New Zealands most important war: WW2?
NZ had our 'land wars' in the mid 1800's on till late 1800's. This was between the European colonists and the native Maori people, who are ferocious warriors. The Maori had many great successes based on strategy and sheer courage. In an unfinished fort (Pa) a couple of hundred of them held off and over 2000 of the Queens best troops who had artillery support, and eventually withdrew suffering very heavy casualties and not having depleted the Maori numbers much at all.
NZ has been in most of the modern wars, WW1, WW2, VietNam, Korea, Afghanistan (SAS), and post war Iraq (re-building). and some others some here may not have heard of, like the recent conflict in East Timor vs. Indonesia (who were shown the door). However WW2 would have to be the most important war for NZ. In this war we gained recognition and respect from our allies, and formed alliances that are still actively enjoyed to this day. Back then people had a stronger sense of duty and loyalty, everyone wanted to go, and a huge percentage of the population did. NZ was in all the main allied theatres, and at one stage when Japan was close, so few men were left here that US troops came over to offer a homeguard as all our men were so far away. Here again our Maori battalion showed their courage, earning the respect of their allies and the fear of the Germans. Their heroics are written about here... http://www.nzetc.org/etexts/WH2Maor/c1.html However time has eroded our armed forces which have slowly diminished, and the emphasis has shifted to fewer but better. Lazza. |
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Topic: War of 1812
The Revolutionary War may have been the war that gave birth to the United States, but the War of 1812 proved we were here to stay. Militarily, the Revolutionary War was horrible. Washington spent most of this time running from the British. His only major victory came at Yorktown with the aid of French fleet and the French Army. After the war ended, the military was reduced to a meager size.
The War of 1812 did not start well for the Americans. Although the Americans won a few single ship engagements, the entire east coast was blockaded. The first invasion into Canada failed in 1812. We invaded and burned York, but the British did the same to Washington DC. Captain Perry won a decisive battle on Lake Erie by rowing to another ship in the middle of battle, saving the day. The invasion of Canada in July 1814 proved that American regulars could stand muzzle to muzzle with British regulars. The American Regulars were dressed in cadet uniforms since the US government had no other uniforms available. The British first thought these soldiers were militia. They quickly changed their minds after seeing the soldiers perform under fire. The British were routed at Chippewa, but they were able to hold the Americans at Lundy Lane. The official outcome is a draw. This engagement may seem small, but it proved that Americans could hold their ground on even terms. The American military was here to stay. |
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This thread is really good. I've never even heard of the 1812 war. :P
OK in my country (Slovenia) it was definetly the independence war of 1991. This is when we gained our independence from Yugoslavia, wich was at that time fast becoming a Greater Serbia. Altough the war lasted for only 10 days it asssured our soverieignty. For a 10 day war it was quite intense - Slovenia only has about 20.000 square kilometers. And there were 19 dead and 182 wuonded on our side, the JLA (Jugoslovanska ljudska armija or Yugoslavian Peoples Army) had 44 dead and 146 wounded. Furthermore there were 4693 POW from the JLA and 252 POW from the Federal Police. We captcured or destroyed 31 tanks 22 armored veichles 6 helicopters 6787 infantry weapons 87 pices of artilery and 124 AAA pices. And this is also more or less the only national war we had besides a few peasant rebelions in the Middle Ages and fighting the Germans guerilla style during WW2. |
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I say the American Revolutionary War for my country. I picked that over the Civil War because if the south did win the Civil War there would either A) Be another war to unite the two countries again; or B) The north and the south (whatever they would be called) would most likely be very good allies so it would almost seem like it's one country anyways.
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