I woke up this morning and what did I see? MORE American evil. I read it on the front page of The Mirror newspaper.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews...name_page.html

Evil? Taking your general dislike for America a bit far on this issue, aren't we? You can easily make a negative case without resorting to such exaggerated terms as "evil." These are not photos of prisoners being executed. I seen none of these over zealous soldiers cutting off toes and fingers. It does not appear to me that the prisoners are being forced to endure the pain of a hot iron against their skin. What I do see, however, are immature, unprofessional soldiers acting in a manner that is inexcusable. While I feel no sympathy for the prisoners whatsoever, the US military holds itself to a high standard, higher than most, and actions such as these will not be tolerated. An investigation has been on going for quite some time, this is not a brand new event, it just happened to hit the media circuit recently. Once the investigation is complete, if appropriate, UCMJ action will be taken to address the problem.

If you randomly pick out 150,000 people from any country, you will always find a percentage of a**holes.
And this is the case here, USA has about 150,000(?) soldiers in Iraq, and unfortunatelly a few of them are now ruining the reputation of everyone.

There is no excuse at all for behavior like this, and I hope that the ones responsible for this will get the punishment they deserve.
But calling this for "more American evil" is a bit narrow minded..
This is peanuts if you compare it to the "Iraqi evil" that happens to kidnapped/captured western civilians and military personell every day...

Originally Posted by RnderSafe

Evil? Taking your general dislike for America a bit far on this issue, aren't we? You can easily make a negative case without resorting to such exaggerated terms as "evil." These are not photos of prisoners being executed. I seen none of these over zealous soldiers cutting off toes and fingers. It does not appear to me that the prisoners are being forced to endure the pain of a hot iron against their skin. What I do see, however, are immature, unprofessional soldiers acting in a manner that is inexcusable. While I feel no sympathy for the prisoners whatsoever, the US military holds itself to a high standard, higher than most, and actions such as these will not be tolerated. An investigation has been on going for quite some time, this is not a brand new event, it just happened to hit the media circuit recently. Once the investigation is complete, if appropriate, UCMJ action will be taken to address the problem.

There are many types of torture. Not just physical torture that causes physical pain. The soldiers are breaking the law and will be rightly punished.

If it was the other way around and it was Iraqis doing exactly the same thing to Americans you would say it is evil and would want those Iraqis to be dealt with.

Also, if the guy with the wires attached to him fell off the chair he would have been electrocuted. That's physical torture.

And American soldiers have tortured innocent civilians in other parts of Iraq.

http://rwor.org/a/1220/wtwvniraq.htm

Originally Posted by BlackJack

The soldiers are breaking the law and will be rightly punished.

I really hope so.
There are no excuse for this.

Originally Posted by BlackJack

If it was the other way around and it was Iraqis doing exactly the same thing to Americans you would say it is evil and would want those Iraqis to be dealt with.

Unfortunately it is the other way around too, and in most cases much much worse than this....

Also, if the guy with the wires attached to him fell off the chair he would have been electrocuted. That's physical torture.

The wires aren't even hot. If he had fallen from the chair, he would have pissed himself, nothing more would have happened to him. Don't be so gullible.

As I said, the actions of these soldiers are not excusable. The US military has a wonderful habit of punishing those that do not follow the standards.

And American soldiers have tortured innocent civilians in other parts of Iraq.
http://rwor.org/a/1220/wtwvniraq.htm

Provide proof, until then, you're simply showing me a site with a left wing military hater whom also has no proof of its allegations.

Also, if you have not, check your PM and follow the instructions listed.

Originally Posted by BlackJack

Also, if the guy with the wires attached to him fell off the chair he would have been electrocuted. That's physical torture.

You should read the whole story before you posts such things..
They told him that he would get electrocuted, but as RnderSafe said, the wires was not hot (not connected to anything...)

Ok, a few points.Please read all the way, before you dismiss, Blackjack and Rendersafe.

1-There is NO excuse for this kind of behavior, and I find it appoling.

2-This soldiers should all face chrages.

3-And, they will be facing charges...Unlike officers and troops of the Iraqi army that never faced charges for acts much worse(acctually they were usually orderd to torture people...).

Six soldiers now face court martial and jail. One allegedly boasted that the captives "broke within hours". Seven others, including a general, are suspended from duty and may be disciplined

See, they will be punished.

4-Every, and I mean every fighting force has a noumber of MFs, that do this kind of lunatic shit.

Ok, a few points.Please read all the way, before you dismiss, Blackjack and Rendersafe.

You did not say anything I haven't already said. Why would I dismiss it?