A Makeover for Islam - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
December 8th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kotakk
Why do u care?They are not coming after everyone.Islam does not preach Violence but IMO that their Holy Book Quran is misinterpreted to a great extent,and maybe for their own convenience.The Life goal of the Jehadi's is to Destroy All opposers of Islam.What can u do against such hate?
I care because they have potential to be more beneficial to the world than they are. Just because Christianity of 1000 AD taught its adherents to convert or destroy all unbelievers doesn't mean Christendom couldn't get over it. By and large, Christianity has. Islam can too, they just need to have a reason and catalist to change.
December 8th, 2004  
kotakk
 
 
What I was actually trying to say that if more moderate people were
allowed to influence policies and if the funding was stopped then this movement will stop n it's tracks.Frankly most of the people are to absorbed in their daily lives to worry about al this hate and hostility,it is only a political ploy to snag more votes,maybe?Just a thought.
December 8th, 2004  
gladius
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
What I'm saying is that you are immortal (so they CAN'T kill you) and you are the #1 most important person in the world of Islam. What would you do or try to do to make Islam:
1.) More friendly to the rest of the world.
2.) More relevant and beneficial to the World Community.

I'm trying to be insufferably optimistic ano see ways that Islam could be improved.
Since you put it that way...

1st, I would allow equal rights for women.

2nd, I would disown all the extremist.

3rd, I would not hold anyone liable for eating pork. After all eating bacon makes people happy. The happier u are, the less likely you will strap a bomb to yourself, yell krazee stuff, and kill someone. Beside the importing of bacon will help the economy of the West especially Canada, therefore improving relations.

Seriously, recognizing Israel's right to exist and making peace with her would be a good first step.
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December 8th, 2004  
rocco
 
a moderate in the islam world would be considered a fanatic in the christian world.
December 8th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gladius
3rd, I would not hold anyone liable for eating pork. After all eating bacon makes people happy. The happier u are, the less likely you will strap a bomb to yourself, yell krazee stuff, and kill someone. Beside the importing of bacon will help the economy of the West especially Canada, therefore improving relations.
I think I'd try to make the distiction VERY CLEAR -- suicide bombing murderers are gonna suffer in hell a lot longer and a lot worse them that ate a slice of bacon.
December 8th, 2004  
rocco
 
godofthunder, as long as self appointed leaders and clerics spew out anti american and anti israeli trash in arab media (not english), mosques and madrassas then nothing can be done.

imo the only thing that can help is time... it took thousands of years, countless crusades, massacres and a holocaust for the west to become democratic. so expect the same for islam.
December 8th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
It would be nice to see Islam wake up to the fact that their hurting themselves more than anyone with else. Its bizarre really: Just about everyone can see it but them.
December 8th, 2004  
Kane
 
It is inappropriate to judge upon another religion and believing that Islam needs a "Make-over". Inappropriate to whom? To every Muslim in this world.
December 8th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
I'm mainly talking about the nations of the world that are predominantly Muslim. Also, I'm not making any statement about how Muslims are or are not. I'm seeing room to improve the way in which the World views them. They are better people than they are often perceived as, after all.
December 10th, 2004  
Missileer
 
 
To me, any religion that doesn't threaten others with bodily harm or refuse to accept that someone else's religion is just as important to them as Islam is to Muslims, I'm okay with it. There are certain societal taboos that are important to everyone. Cannibalism is one, human sacrifices is another good example. While I abhor the practice of whipping and raping Women for any reason, much less because the mesh on their veil is too transparent, these are things which will have to start in Muslim schools and with more tolerant Mullahs. I'm not accusing the Muslim faith of the mantioned taboos, they are merely examples that the world cannot allow some destructive practices.