M16A2 is ageing - Page 2




 
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August 29th, 2004  
Aaron
 
id have to say that i think the X-M8 should replace it or they could even make a small upgrade and use what us aussies use the Stey Aug
September 16th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
Nothing wrong with the A2. Every body has just fallen in love with hi tech that can mount all kinds of optics etc..The more gadgets you put on a weapon the more gadgets will fail when you need them. Like right in the middle of a fire fight,
September 17th, 2004  
Lil Hulk 1988
 
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Originally Posted by 03USMC
Nothing wrong with the A2. Every body has just fallen in love with hi tech that can mount all kinds of optics etc..The more gadgets you put on a weapon the more gadgets will fail when you need them. Like right in the middle of a fire fight,
For some reason all those optics has a problem with mud, go figure....
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September 17th, 2004  
SAINT
 
I still like the M-16.

Optics.. yes, mud, rain, dirt.. it's not useful in combat terrain. Except for battle in build-up area.
optics.. remember to bring your lens wiper and lotion in your full pack..!
September 17th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
But man I'm gonna tell ya an M-4 with Eotech optics, a 203 , two mags taped together with riggers tape an assault sling, while yer wearin a bush cover and got yer cammie stick all tiger stripped makes one heckuva "Hey Mom look at me!" photo.

Never mind that steady string of Maggies Drawers you shot in the 300 meter slow fire
September 18th, 2004  
e=mc2
 
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Originally Posted by Shadowalker
Well i think the army is looking to replace it with the XM8 but i thought it was more M4 size then M16. If i was us military and was looking to replace like with like i would want the G36, as it is 5.56mm, used by its NATO allies and is one of the best rifles in the world at the minute, though it isnt bullpup design!

http://www.world.guns.ru/assault/as14-e.htm
Bullpup designs suck. They are horrid for left handers who make up a large part of your force. Telling them to learn to shoot right is a BS answer too.

The G36 is identical to the M8. The G36 is based on the AR18 (In design of function/action).

The M8 is a G36 only the US forces will have a better sight and a more robust stock capable of IMTing and buttstroking better. The current standard sight on the G36 is less than ideal and the stock is a bit flimsy if you intend to use it to break a fall.

Our rail/mounting system will also allow for more versatility than a G36.

Other than that, it's optics.
November 13th, 2004  
ltdave
 
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steady string of Maggies Drawers you shot in the 300 meter slow fire
what slow fire at 300? is that part of rifle quals now? in COMPETITION, 300 is rapid fire prone from standing...

also the Australians Steyr Aug is a piece of crap. ask the Brits from GW1. those bullpup design rifles dont work very well at all. they are more prone to failure than even the early XM16s from 1964-1965...

david
November 13th, 2004  
USAFAUX2004
 
 
P90 all the way!
November 13th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
I like the M-16 style of layout.
I personally dislike the bullpups. It doesn't allow you to rapidly switch hands for the corners. And yes, I shoot left handed.
And yes, no need to waste money. The M-16 is doing fine.
November 13th, 2004  
USAFAUX2004
 
 
it is doing fine, but something more powerful should be adopted