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"This is how liberty dies; with thunderous applause ..." Padme Amidala, Star Wars

Remember folks.... Emperor Palpatine started off as a Senator.


So did Adolf Hitler of Germany.


Already.... Obama's minions are starting to remove the last blocks that prevent a complete corruption of government.

Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to re-write House rules today to ensure that the Republican minority is unable to have any influence on legislation. Pelosi’s proposals are so draconian, and will so polarize the Capitol, that any thought President-elect Obama has of bipartisan cooperation will be rendered impossible before he even takes office.


Pelosi’s rule changes -- which may be voted on today -- will reverse the fairness rules that were written around Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America.


In reaction, the House Republican leadership is sending a letter today to Pelosi to object to changes to House Rules this week that would bar Republicans from offering alternative bills, amendments to Democrat bills or even the guarantee of open debate accessible by motions to recommit for any piece of legislation during the entire 111th Congress. These procedural abuses, as outlined in the below letter obtained by HUMAN EVENTS, would also include the repeal of six-year limit for committee chairmen and other House Rules reform measures enacted in 1995 as part of the Contract with America.


After decades of Democrat control of the House of Representatives, gross abuses to the legislative process and several high-profile scandals contributed to an overwhelming Republican House Congressional landslide victory in 1994. Reforms to the House Rules as part of the Contract with America were designed to open up to public scrutiny what had become under this decades-long Democrat majority a dangerously secretive House legislative process. The Republican reform of the way the House did business included opening committee meetings to the public and media, making Congress actually subject to federal law, term limits for committee chairmen ending decades-long committee fiefdoms, truth in budgeting, elimination of the committee proxy vote, authorization of a House audit, specific requirements for blanket rules waivers, and guarantees to the then-Democrat minority party to offer amendments to pieces of legislation.


Pelosi’s proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble legislation in secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the elimination of debate and amendment procedures as part of America’s governing legislative process.


Below is the text of the letter on which the House Republican leadership has signed off.


January 5, 2009

The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Speaker of the House
H-232, U.S.
Capitol
Washington, D.C.
20515

Dear Madame Speaker,

We hope you and your family had a joyful holiday season, and as we begin a new year and a new Congress, we look forward to working with you, our colleagues on both sides of the aisle, and President-elect Obama in tackling the many challenges facing our nation.


President Obama has pledged to lead a government that is open and transparent. With that in mind, we are deeply troubled by media reports indicating that the Democratic leadership is poised to repeal reforms put in place in 1995 that were intended to help restore Americans’ trust and confidence in the People’s House. Specifically, these reports note that the Majority, as part of its rules package governing the new Congress, will end six-year term limits for Committee chairs and further restrict the opportunity for all members to offer alternative legislation. This does not represent change; it is reverting back to the undemocratic one-party rule and backroom deals that the American people rejected more than a decade ago. And it has grave implications for the American people and their freedom, coming at a time when an unprecedented expansion of federal power and spending is being hastily planned by a single party behind closed doors. Republicans will vigorously oppose repealing these reforms if they are brought to a vote on the House floor.


As you know, after Republicans gained the majority in the House in 1995, our chamber adopted rules to limit the terms of all committee chairs to three terms in order to reward new ideas, innovation, and merit rather than the strict longevity that determined chairmanships in the past. This reform was intended to help restore the faith and trust of the American people in their government – a theme central to President-elect Obama’s campaign last year. He promoted a message of “change,” but Madame Speaker, abolishing term limit reform is the opposite of “change.” Instead, it will entrench a handful of Members of the House in positions of permanent power, with little regard for its impact on the American people.


The American people also stand to pay a price if the Majority further shuts down free and open debate on the House floor by refusing to allow all members the opportunity to offer substantive alternatives to important legislation -- the same opportunities that Republicans guaranteed to Democrats as motions to recommit during their 12 years in the Minority. The Majority’s record in the last Congress was the worst in history when it came to having a free and open debate on the issues.


This proposed change also would prevent Members from exposing and offering proposals to eliminate tax increases hidden by the Democratic Majority in larger pieces of legislation. This is not the kind of openness and transparency that President-elect Obama promised. This change would deprive tens of millions of Americans the opportunity to have a voice in the most important policy decisions facing our country.


Madame Speaker, we urge you to reconsider the decision to repeal these reforms, which could come up for a vote as early as tomorrow. Just as a new year brings fresh feelings of optimism and renewal for the American people, so too should a new Congress. Changing the House rules in the manner highlighted by recent media reports would have the opposite effect: further breaching the trust between our nation’s elected representatives and the men and women who send them to Washington to serve their interests and protect their freedom.


Sincerely,

Rep.
John Boehner (R-Ohio), Republican Leader
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.
), Republican Whip
Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.
), Conference Chairman
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.
), Policy Committee Chairman
Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wyo.
), Conference Vice-Chair
Rep.
John Carter (R-Texas), Conference Secretary
Rep.
Pete Sessions (R-Texas), NRCC Chairman
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.
), Chief Deputy Whip
Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.
), Rules Committee Ranking Republican

http://www. humanevents. com/article. php?id=30143
 
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Does any one know if there is an official period of time that must be waited before you start laughing about the use of Star Wars analogies in the real world?
 
I am confident that Obama is not a dark lord of the sith, and that he will not in fact command an army of clone troopers to assasinate the jedi. Also, your picture is fairly offensive to be honest.
 
Why are you referring to the reichstag? it's the building where our parliament meets... :-(
To speak about Obama as dictator... seriously either there are some crazy people in America or it really is that bad and we don't get any info on the media...
 
No, I think the claim that Obama is a dictator is fairly over the top.
He's not even President yet for crying out loud.
 
Why are you referring to the reichstag? it's the building where our parliament meets... :-(
To speak about Obama as dictator... seriously either there are some crazy people in America or it really is that bad and we don't get any info on the media...


I take it there is no chance Darth Vader has an office there?

Anyway I suspect it is a reference to the "Nazi" era and not the current one but on the whole it is just poorly thought out as neither the Reichstag nor the Politburo exist in the context of his argument, I am not even certain Hitler was a senator and "Emperor Palpatine" is a purely fictional character.

I would say that this is a fine example of not reading things that have been sent to you before you rush to pass the message on.
 
All criticism of Madam Pelosi above is totally justified and Americans should be worried where she and Harry Reid are taking the Congress.

However, I think President Obama will be more moderate and fair than them, and it is not really he who Americans need to worry about (unless of course I've read Obama wrong and he is pretending to be the "good-cop" and bi-partisan champion in contrast to the bad-cops Pelosi/Reid, but in fact, behind the scenes is supportive of Pelosi's unabashed grab for total power)
 
Its funny how some will forecast dark horizons of the Obama Administration (who isn't even in office yet) and who cheered the loudest over the worst abuses of office that were committed by the current vice-president.

Remember whom it was who refused a Congressional audit by stating "the vice-presidency is not part of the executive branch" and then tried to dismantled that very department (National Archives auditor). Even his hunting pal Antonin Scalia would have gasped on that one.

A hint: it wasnt Obama, Pelosi, or Reid.
 
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I am confident that Obama is not a dark lord of the sith, and that he will not in fact command an army of clone troopers to assasinate the jedi. Also, your picture is fairly offensive to be honest.

My question is this:
If Obama is the Sith Lord, the who is his apprentice?

Padre, Thanks for the laugh. I really needed that. Teddy Kennedy's was the best.
 
5.56, can we tone it down a little? Really, just a little? I don't like people trashing my country like that. ;)

It's my country too... I can talk about it how ever I want. I fought for this country, shed blood for this country, and I still serve this country.

Unless you've been in my shoes. Don't say what I can and can't do.

That's why I have taken four oaths so far in my 24 years of life to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. I've fought for the 1st Amendment just as much as I've fought for the 2nd...
 
That may be true but this is a message board and has its own rules which may not follow your constitutional ones, for example the right free speech is not guaranteed here.
 
/thread. Don't feed the troll.

One.... I'm not a troll.

Two.... I'm not country bashing... I'm talking about my own fears about what is happening to my own country.

Three... I am not country bashing. I'm not bash my own country. I'm talking about actual issues that are occurring here.

Four... I am not in anyway attacking anyone Race. I'm not pushing Racism.

Five... I'm not Spamming. Not throwing adds for crap.

Six.... I'm not spreading Hate against anyone or any group of people, religion, sexual persuasion, etc...


DON'T LABEL ME A TROLL....
 
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It's my country too... I can talk about it how ever I want. I fought for this country, shed blood for this country, and I still serve this country.

Unless you've been in my shoes. Don't say what I can and can't do.

That's why I have taken four oaths so far in my 24 years of life to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. I've fought for the 1st Amendment just as much as I've fought for the 2nd...

Hes not telling you to do anything, he's politely asking you. And the reason he is ASKING you is because the vitrol you keep spitting 24/7 doesn't help the country one single bit and is in fact only making the problems in this country worse, not better.

We already have one Anne Coulter in America and I am sorry to say she has nicer legs than you do.

The fact is this: Your side has been at bat for the past 8 years and you have done a TERRIBLE job. That fact is indisputable and there are very few Republicans who would disagree with it. This is why your side just got its rear end punted out of office. You don't lose the house, senate, and Presidency in a 2 year stretch unless you really, really, screw up.
 
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