Solve et Coagula
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Look at how many Nukes America has!!!
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Solve et Coagula said:Look at how many Nukes America has!!!
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Doody said:wow, I felt like I was being talked to like a 9 year old.
I did some sniffing on the www and I guess the USA has anywhere from 9,000 to 18,000 nukes depending on what site you believe. Yeah, I am guessing that is a bit much. We could easily deter nuclear war with 2,000.
I believe the USA is spending too much money across the board, not just in the military. If my memory is correct 40% of the budget is entitelments (like Social Security, medicare, pensions, ect) that cannot be just eliminated with ease. By 2010 entitlements will make up 50% of the budget.
I will say no more because chief bones and I started threads on this issue. If the USA does not become fiscally sound, we are up the creek. However, most of the American people would be hypocrites to criticize budget deficites, becuase a good many Americans are borrowing like there is no tomorrow.
...once again of course we are. But we wont stop because the American people would be shocked if they heard that Bush or any future president was cutting the spending of America...Its just not right. We were founded on the belief of progress, always looking forward. And I suppose that means in the budget as well. Once we have reached a certain budget peak, we never look back, just look forward for a higher one...Doody said:wow, I felt like I was being talked to like a 9 year old.Yea I hafta agree with you there...That was simplified...too much I think.
I did some sniffing on the www and I guess the USA has anywhere from 9,000 to 18,000 nukes depending on what site you believe. Yeah, I am guessing that is a bit much. We could easily deter nuclear war with 2,000.....of course we could...But we hafta feel secure.
I believe the USA is spending too much money across the board, not just in the military.
Well, there are two types of nukes (more, but two major classes). There are the tactical nukes for battlefields and the strategic nukes. The strategic nukes also MIRV. Essentially, one rocket shoots up, but delivers multiple warheads.Doody said:I did some sniffing on the www and I guess the USA has anywhere from 9,000 to 18,000 nukes depending on what site you believe. Yeah, I am guessing that is a bit much. We could easily deter nuclear war with 2,000.
Yep, much of the budget is locked in as mandatory spending. The discretionary spending is actually shrinking (as % of the budget) each year.Doody said:I believe the USA is spending too much money across the board, not just in the military. If my memory is correct 40% of the budget is entitelments (like Social Security, medicare, pensions, ect) that cannot be just eliminated with ease. By 2010 entitlements will make up 50% of the budget.
Well, it comes down to a few things. First, with each new government program, citizens allow the government in increase it's size and power. This erodes individual liberties.ASTRALdragon said:Wait wait, are you saying that spending on entitlements is a bad thing? I always thought securing the lives of the American people when they could no longer work or need cheap healthcare (hell, I need this! freakin student's budget I tell ya).
It is and the money taken in will soon be less than the money spent. When this happens, the true fiscal deficit picture will be seen. That is, right now the excess money is used to offset the deficit.ASTRALdragon said:I thought Social Security was in trouble...
This is flat out untrue.ASTRALdragon said:I know the American healthcare system sucks compared to other nations (i.e. Japan, Canada, Cuba, etc.) so they definitely need to work on that.
Well, I'd like to ask what other nations are doing about alternative fuels. In the US, there is research into biodiesel technology, thermal depolymerization, nuclear technology, etc. The fact is, government based research produces results more slowly than market funded research. When oil reaches higher prices per barrell, it becomes economically feasible to extract oil from the oil shale in Texas and Canada, for example. The reserves that can be drawn from oil shale are extimated to drawf those currently being tapped.ASTRALdragon said:As for military spending, yea I'd agree that the US is spending waaay too much on that. I think American weaponry is going along fine and they need to spend more on the people using those weapons for greater effectiveness. Right now, America should be spending money on research for alternative fuel sources so that they do not become too dependent on oil/OPEC, and fossil fuels will run out.
JulesLee said:o.,O wasnt the nuke program like 5.5 trillon dollars... isnt US in a great debt? how is it freedom when every american born has a giant debt on their back... man they tested those on soldiers of the US.. i hate how military men are dogs of political leaders..
Quality not Quantity.Its not the weapon, but the wielder that matters.
FULLMETALJACKET said:Quality not Quantity.
Chief Bones said:I chose to ignore this individual ... he doesn't have anything to add to any issue I wish to debate.
If he wasn't so far in left field and apparantly anti-American I might be able to stomach his rhetoric. He post an article that is confrontational and then disappears into the woodwork ...
NOT FOR ME ... if he isn't willing to stick around and defend his statements, then he isn't worth listening to in the first place.
SORRY FOR MY RANT...
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