Live fire contoversy...
A Can of Man
Je suis aware
Different terminologies leading to confusion I suppose?
Big_Z
MilForum Recon
I work around the stuff everyday so I thought I would give some ensight to the civvies. That's who the initial comment was intended for. I was backing up that militaries know what they are doing. We have strict safety precations on the matter and this was a unfortunate fluke.
A Can of Man
Je suis aware
I think most people are in agreement here.
If you use live ammo for exercises, it's only a matter of time before someone gets into a fatal accident. Just the nature of the job.
If you use live ammo for exercises, it's only a matter of time before someone gets into a fatal accident. Just the nature of the job.
03USMC
Active member
No sweat dude. Thing is we have know it all civvies, posers, and wannabes here trying to educate us. I really hate to see the actual military getting in pissing contests about chit like this.
1. Are these groups comprised of soldiers?
2. If so, cool.
3. If not then who are they to complain?
captiva303
Active member
no!! soldiers aren't complaining...
but others are...
well some of these groups are family members of people involved in similar incedents in the past who are unhappy with the way things are done...
(often because investigations found that their relatives were the ones who made unfortunate mistakes rather than a flawed system which now to them screams cover up!!)
other groups include the general anti-military band wagon and the media was going about this as if there was actually a major issue...
who they are going to complain to???
anybody who will listen, and if enough people will listen politicians jump on the band wagon and stupid stuff starts happening, like when this same process took place but with the military justice system. the politicians ended up unnecessarily removing a working judicial system and replaced it with a flawed unconstitutional military judicial system which now has to be removed by the new government...
BTW the issue has now largely blown over but it had potential...
but others are...
well some of these groups are family members of people involved in similar incedents in the past who are unhappy with the way things are done...
(often because investigations found that their relatives were the ones who made unfortunate mistakes rather than a flawed system which now to them screams cover up!!)
other groups include the general anti-military band wagon and the media was going about this as if there was actually a major issue...
who they are going to complain to???
anybody who will listen, and if enough people will listen politicians jump on the band wagon and stupid stuff starts happening, like when this same process took place but with the military justice system. the politicians ended up unnecessarily removing a working judicial system and replaced it with a flawed unconstitutional military judicial system which now has to be removed by the new government...
BTW the issue has now largely blown over but it had potential...