Libya to buy Rafale fighter jets

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Libya plans to order between 13 and 18 Rafale fighter jets from Dassault Aviation (Nachrichten) as part of its plans to modernise its army, the Journal du Dimanche said quoting Libyan government sources.If confirmed the sale would be the first outside France of the fourth-generation Rafale fighter planes.'The political decision to buy French Rafale fighter planes was taken recently at the highest level of the Libyan state,' the newspaper said, adding that the order was valued at around 2.5 bln eur.http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2007-01/artikel-7580336.asp
 
Most countries around the world are the same though, certaintly all the superpowers/ major powers etc
 
Well, I for one feel safer in my bed knowing that the French are selling top tier fighter jets to the Libyans.
 
what is the name thats on your finger

Most countries around the world are the same though, certaintly all the superpowers/ major powers etc
I just want to remember what is the name of that on your finger called, i forgot its name:mrgreen: , it is the coutiest thing i have ever seen.
 
Libya Has A Good Millitary !!
More Than 700 Fighters Mig19,21,29,25,23,27.su22,24,25,27.12tu22,mirage F1
4500 Tanks T55,64,72,lion,m60a3
Almost 3000 Armours Bmd 1,2 Bmp1,2.ee9.BTR60
But In The Other Hand Their Number People Are Very Small.their Population Nuber Are Only 6 Million
 
Army

Libya Has A Good Millitary !!
More Than 700 Fighters Mig19,21,29,25,23,27.su22,24,25,27.12tu22,mirage F1
4500 Tanks T55,64,72,lion,m60a3
Almost 3000 Armours Bmd 1,2 Bmp1,2.ee9.BTR60
But In The Other Hand Their Number People Are Very Small.their Population Nuber Are Only 6 Million




Libyan Army numbered some 45,000 men, including 25,000 draftees. Recent years saw the Army undermined by the embargo, which deprived it of new weapons, and even more by the rise to power of the 40,000-strong Revolutionary Guard. The Army had been further weakened by having been disorganized into the "People's Guard." The Libyan Army is organized into seven military districts and five Presidential Guards have been created - a product of the 1994 - 1995 restructuring process. Its strength is 45 000 personnel of which 40 000 are conscripts. It also possesses some 40 000 reserves organized into a People’s Militia. The structure of the Army is as follows: 21 X Infantry Btns 10 X Armoured Btns 22 X Artillery Btns 15 X Special Forces 8 X Air Defence Btns The Army is charged with border protection and acting as a rapid deployment force depending on operational circumstances. Doctrine is a mixture of Egyptian doctrine which was adopted after the 1969 coup and socialist principles derived from the concepts of a People’s Army. In 1987 the army--by far the largest and most developed branch of the military forces--was still organized tactically in battalion formations. These included twenty tank battalions, thirty mechanized infantry battalions, ten artillery battalions, and two special forces groups comprising ten paratroop battalions. Air defense was organized into two antiaircraft battalions and six surface-to-air missile battalions. Two surface-to-surface missile brigades were equipped with free rocket over ground (FROG) and Scud missiles acquired from the Soviet Union. Although the pattern of equipment purchases and the creation of divisional headquarters units suggested that a transition to a more integrated structure of mobile armored and mechanized infantry was contemplated, by early 1987 the shift to such an organizational form had not yet occurred. During specific deployments, as in Chad, units were brought together on an ad hoc basis. If the tank and mechanized battalions were to be consolidated into a more unified command structure, this would most likely be designed for planning territorial defense rather than for desert combat operations; the system existing in 1987 of independent battalions afforded more flexibility for desert combat. In early 1987, the Libyan army was well outfitted with modern armaments, including rocket systems, armored vehicles for its infantry and artillery, engineering equipment, up-to-date Soviet infantry weapons, sophisticated fire-control systems, flame throwers and chemical munitions, and antitank guided missiles. Libya's more than 3,000 tanks gave it the tenth largest tank force in the world. Its range of tracked and wheeled armor, tank transporters, and air transport ensured it the necessary mobility to bring its forces to bear rapidly against any threat to its territorial integrity and enabled it to intervene in ventures far beyond its borders. The army was nevertheless confronted by grave deficiencies. The high technological level of its equipment demanded a corresponding level of technical competence in operation and maintenance that the army lacked. Maintenance and repair problems were exacerbated by the diversity of arms sources--British, American, French, Soviet, Italian, and Brazilian. The numerous foreign advisers and technicians were insufficient to overcome low standards of support and logistics. To judge from the ability the Libyans demonstrated in Chad to sustain modern combat operations over extended supply lines, some progress was being made in correcting these problems. The pattern of troop concentrations could not be determined precisely from published sources. Some troops were at the operational sites, including Tripoli, Misratah, Az Zawiyah, Surt, Benghazi, Darnah, and Tobruk, that were established at strategic points along the Mediterranean coast during World War II. Others were at inland sites at desert oases, such as Sabha, and farther south, at Al Kufrah, which became the main base for operations in Chad. Areas adjacent to the Egyptian border, particularly along lines of movement, were also well defended. Many army units were scattered throughout populated areas, owing in part to their responsibility for training People's Militia units. Few details were available on army training. The military academy at Benghazi, established before independence with British assistance, offered its cadets courses in higher education and military subjects to prepare them for active duty as junior officers. Qadhafi and other members of the RCC attended the institution, but it was closed after the coup. Later a military academy opened at Tripoli. In 1985 a military engineering college (at an unspecified location) to provide training in all technical military specialities was proposed. The college was to have a four-year program leading to a bachelor's degree. At about the same time, the establishment of a reserves college with a one-year program leading to the rank of second lieutenant in the reserves was announced. Admission would be contingent on the attainment of a university degree or its equivalent and a demonstration of "adherence to the great Fatah revolution." Because Libya is not known to have an active reserve program, it remained unclear how the graduates of this institution would be used. NavyThe navy has always been the stepchild of the Libyan armed forces, although its Soviet-supplied submarines and fast-attack craft with missiles have endowed it with the potential for inflicting damage on other naval powers in the Mediterranean. The enormous firepower available to small vessels armed with missiles and sophisticated electronic guidance systems has enabled Qadhafi to assemble a modern flotilla at relatively low cost and with few personnel. The navy consisted of no more than 200 officers and men when the first warship was delivered to the Idris regime in 1966. Under Qadhafi, naval personnel had increased to 6,500 by 1986 and was expected to rise still further to meet the staffing needs of additional ships on order. Traditionally, the navy's primary mission has been to defend the coast and to assist the other services in maintaining internal security and public order. After the previously separate customs and harbor police were joined with the navy in a single command under the Ministry of Defense in 1970, the mission was extended to include responsibilities for curbing smuggling and for enforcing customs laws. The rapid naval buildup that occurred during the 1970s was intended to enforce Qadhafi's claim of sovereignty over the Gulf of Sidra with its sponging and fishing grounds as well as potential unexploited mineral wealth. The navy could also deter landings or raids aimed against the country's oil fields and vulnerable oil transport network. The purpose of acquiring amphibious ships for landing infantry and tanks was less obvious. One explanation might be to present a threat to Egyptian forces near the border with Libya. The Egyptians' sole land supply route is the coastal road from Alexandria. The navy has always been dependent on foreign sources for equipment, spare parts, and training. In 1972 a British naval advisory mission that had assisted in the development of the Libyan navy since its founding was terminated. Training was shifted to Greece and to Egypt and later to the Soviet Union. The initial ship orders, placed with British yards, were for patrol boats and corvettes. The largest surface ship in the Libyan navy, a frigate of about 1,500 tons with a crew of 130, was ordered just before the 1969 coup and delivered in 1973. Later, high-speed patrol boats and corvettes equipped with surface-to-surface missiles were purchased from France, Italy, and the Soviet Union. Between 1976 and 1983, six Soviet Foxtrot-class submarines were delivered. Each required a crew of seventy-five; in addition, twelve Soviet advisers were reportedly assigned to each vessel. Little information was available on the navy's organizational structure, but Tripoli was known to be the site of the naval command headquarters and of the principal naval base. Other bases were located in the ports of Benghazi, Darnah, Tobruk, and Marsa al Burayqah. A repair base was located at Al Khums east of Tripoli, and a submarine base was under construction at Ras al Hilal. As of early 1987, the Libyan navy had faced no hostile actions except for the encounter with the American fleet in March 1986 in which one missile boat and a corvette were destroyed and others possibly damaged. Earlier, it was reported that the small Libyan vessels were experiencing difficulty in obeying Qadhafi's order to remain at sea to avoid the risk of being bombed in port by American planes. The fleet reported breakdowns of engines and electronic failures as well as shortages of food and fuel. By early 1987 it was considered probable that the Libyan navy was overextended, having carried out a rapid buildup without sufficient trained personnel. More than one-third of the entire naval complement of 6,500 would be required to supply a single crew for each of the ships in commission in 1986. In addition, personnel would have to be found to staff a number of other vessels on order.
 
The French never intended on haveing integrity in the first place....haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. sory frenchessss

It was Lybia which helped Iranian upgrade their Mirage F-1EQ jets in return for some financial help and some spare parts for Libyan Su-24 fleet
 
Libya plans to order between 13 and 18 Rafale fighter jets from Dassault Aviation (Nachrichten) as part of its plans to modernise its army, the Journal du Dimanche said quoting Libyan government sources.If confirmed the sale would be the first outside France of the fourth-generation Rafale fighter planes.'The political decision to buy French Rafale fighter planes was taken recently at the highest level of the Libyan state,' the newspaper said, adding that the order was valued at around 2.5 bln eur.http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2007-01/artikel-7580336.asp

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Bloody French.... The only thing they care about is MONEY. They have no integrity at all

Thats very hypocritical...

Explain why its OK for the US to sell weapons to tyrants (including Saddam, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and various other totalitarisn regimes), but when the French (or anybody else for that matter) do it, its not OK?

I would also remind you that the US is the #1 arms exporter in the World. Those who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.
 
・・・・・・・Yes,I know it.
Oil rules everything and that's why Iraq war・・・・・
All countries should develop Alternative energy technology not to involve in such countries.
 
hypocritical

Thats very hypocritical...

Explain why its OK for the US to sell weapons to tyrants (including Saddam, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and various other totalitarisn regimes), but when the French (or anybody else for that matter) do it, its not OK?

I would also remind you that the US is the #1 arms exporter in the World. Those who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.

Yes you are right but the USA dos not sell hitec weapons to tyrants, so why did the french sell their hitec aircraft in the first place to totalitarism regimes, like Libya, iraq iran ext ext ext,
 
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