Are Liberals Exploiting People's Needs? - Page 4




 
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Boots
 
May 23rd, 2006  
Ted
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by major liability
Apparently, I am liberal. From an economic perspective I am more conservative, but from a social issues perspective... you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you're not harming anyone else, as far as I'm concerned. Smoke some fine herb. Have kinky sex with men... but if you kill someone, you die. That's right, I also believe in capital punishment! A strong military! Machineguns for everyone! And no more affirmitive action!

I admire aspects of socialist, libertarian, and conservative ideas, and it's very hard to put them together in a working system.
Wow, you and I have more in common then thought before!! And I don't know about you, but I also belong to this special 3% group.... So I am starting to wonder what group this is!
May 23rd, 2006  
JSLQ
 
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Originally Posted by bulldogg
Wrong.

You are not in the military. Further you are a very poor candidate for military service. I would highly suggest you do not follow the path, you are ill-suited to the demands and have a very poor understanding of the sacrifices made everyday by soldiers so that you can run your mouth berating them with your verbal manure.

Wrong, you are the one not in the military.
May 23rd, 2006  
bulldogg
 
 
Would you please attempt to grow a spine and quit editting your friggin posts AFTER people have responded to them. No one likes to talk to a worm.

As for not being in the military... been there done that something your butt has yet to do so by all means pull yer head in.
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Boots
May 23rd, 2006  
JSLQ
 
The mod said to edit the post instead of double posting. I assure you, the edits are simply adding additional thoughts to the post.

edit: that being said, in my mind the military is a great place to improve yourself. Not only are you being tought to live as a neat and organized human being, you are being given an occupation, money to earn an education with, and all at the same time coupled with free room and board and rules.

The gov become like very strict parents and you get rewarded for it. I just hope it doesn't dehabilitate you.
May 23rd, 2006  
bulldogg
 
 
It is not double posting after another member has responded. It is in point of fact disingenuous.

Anywho... back on topic... does anyone else think that dividing the spectrum of thought on the economy, domestic policy, foreign policy et al into two views, conservative or liberal is just a tad oversimplifying things? I would go so far as to claim it is in fact a case of "divide and rule" and for the most part the sheep are buying into it.
May 23rd, 2006  
Missileer
 
 

Far-Right Conservative

Somehow, I knew this would happen.
May 23rd, 2006  
Ted
 
 
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Originally Posted by Missileer

Far-Right Conservative

Somehow, I knew this would happen.
Hahahahaha I fear you even more now then I did before Missileer. I now I can throw in the argument that you canīt cope with other points of view because of your lack of tolerance hahahaha!!!!!
May 23rd, 2006  
C/2nd Lt Robot
 
 


This isn't too surprising at all.
May 24th, 2006  
JSLQ
 
I scored far left liberal... how dumb.

Issues were presented as either liberal or conservative but did not leave room for personal opinion. It seems like voting on such a test describes your station in life (or what you would like others to think is your station in life) rather than your opinion on individual issues:

These are my opinions, which are not necessarily traditionally ham sandwiched media conservatively twisted liberal or tight fisted miserly classist conservative:


1. Capital Punishment. I believe in capital punishment. I even believe that Roman colosseums are not bad. We should have roman arenas with gladiators. What I do not like about capital punishment is that it is too culture infused. Forinstance, if Chayne would have killed his buddy in the hunting accident, I highly doubt he would be on death row, although if black people shoot eachother in a hunting accident, one is going to be a murderer. I believe that if a murder is already done, the only reason to murder the murderer is so that they do not commit another murder. If we knew they would not commit another murder than why kill them. 2 evils does not make a good. Another backing to kill a murderer is if they want to die. It seems like if they are so psychologically ruined, it would be a mercy to kill them; so be it. We could make an Arena and charge bucks to watch them duke it out after we drugged them with medicine that made them feel nothing.

2. Affirmative Action. This is one of those things where we will not know what the effects are until they are studied without bias, but since it is highly improbable that will happen, it's a moot point.

3. Abortion. I believe that killing something for nothing is wrong. That being said, I believe when the nervous system develops is when there is life. I wouldn't mind dying if i couldn't feel it and my brain was not developed enough to know what was going on.

4. Ten Commandment display. I believe religion to serve many purposes but I do believe that religion can also be used as a tool to manipulate. Ever since Constantine, things have gone down hill in religion.

5. My view on welcoming immigrants. Well, when it was said to "bring your poor, hungry, malnourished to America" that's exactly what was meant.

6. Racial Profiling. Racial Profiling... Never had to deal with it so I do not know what it is all about.

7. Homosexuality. Homosexuals are fine as long as they're both female and they are willing to let me watch.
May 25th, 2006  
loki
 
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Originally Posted by bulldogg
Anywho... back on topic... does anyone else think that dividing the spectrum of thought on the economy, domestic policy, foreign policy et al into two views, conservative or liberal is just a tad oversimplifying things?
Yes me too. A better approach is http://www.politicalcompass.org. Although the test says I'm Ghandi.

BTW, I didn't know "liberal" was a synonym for "leftist" in the US. "Liberals" in most parts of the world are in the middle of the political spectrum. And if the US democrats would candidate in any other country they would be put there too I guess. I mean just take the Clinton government, they were in charge for 8 years and couldn't even bring themselves to introduce free health care - what kind of leftist ideology is that supposed to be? Also, "leftist" governments don't leave a balanced budget. Ever.


And @phoenix80:
introducing welfare money doesn't mean you want people not to work. It's simply the only sane thing to do when there's no full employment. Unless of course you don't mind people less lucky than you die of hunger or freeze to death in winter. Thats right, "less lucky", as it is not only the incapable or lazy that end up relying on social support. Part of any business venture is taking risks, so in a nation of risk takers you will always have some that fail miserably. No matter what thats just the merciless laws of probability.

Also you seem to imply that if only the conservatives had their way, poverty would be wiped out sooner or later. The only reason its still around is that democrats need it to win elections. But if we all were wealthy business men, with nice conservative families, in nice homes, all playing golf at the country club on weekends... who would serve us drinks there? Who would mow the lawn? Who would wash the dishes? Would those guys be rich too? Cuz I think that would be a vision any leftist could agree on, with a dishwasher earning as much as a factory owner.

Ok you probably didn't mean to say that. So you agree there will always be less fortunate people. But if that is so I think its a good thing they have a political voice too. Saying the democrats are only exploiting their needs and actually want them to stay poor is like saying doctors want people to get sick and have accidents because otherwise they would be out of work. It's kinda true but if you're sick or just had an accident with the chainsaw you will still want to see a doctor.