Originally Posted by FO Seaman

I should have known that, that's always the downer about vehicle shopping. You find one you like and "bam" it gets 12 mpg, not exactly the best choice for a person on a small income.

Never did think about that Pale, it is quite interesting.

That's ok, lets not spoil their fun.



I think it's going to be along the same lines as to why Australia picked the M1 for their MBT. Chances are if they are fighting, the US is gonna be right there too. I think it's the same for the Saudi's and Kuwait, we're their ally and if they get into a scrap, we'll back them. Unless they do something stupid. So I bet it's along those lines, besides you can't give Iraq a bunch of M60's, I love those babies, but it'd cost more to beef them up and give them updated systems then just giving them brand new M1A1 SA's.



Quite true, but I think it's like as I said above, they rely on us for logistical support.

The issue with the LEO 2 series hull that I was eluding to was the amount of armor protection, please keep in mind that this is also where they store reserve ammunition, right next to the driver, if this goes up then you are looking at a total vehicle loss. There is a different engine pact that was tested and is ready to go for the M1 series, it is called LV100-5, the same engine pact for the now shelved Crusader program. LV100-5 operates at 40% less parts and should be able to get 70 additional miles per M1A2 SEP top off. AGT1500 engine pact is at its worst when at idle, this is one of the biggest causes for fuel consumption.

I think that reason that Australia picked the M1 was that it is battlefield tested and I lay you odds that they got it at a very good price, probably cost and that the builders of it will make up th cash on sales of spare parts.

Originally Posted by Pale Rider

The issue with the LEO 2 series hull that I was eluding to was the amount of armor protection, please keep in mind that this is also where they store reserve ammunition, right next to the driver, if this goes up then you are looking at a total vehicle loss. There is a different engine pact that was tested and is ready to go for the M1 series, it is called LV100-5, the same engine pact for the now shelved Crusader program. LV100-5 operates at 40% less parts and should be able to get 70 additional miles per M1A2 SEP top off. AGT1500 engine pact is at its worst when at idle, this is one of the biggest causes for fuel consumption.

I noticed that. A very big liability, same thing for the Sherman back in the day. Just weld a steel plate over that section and you'll go good they said.

We kinda learn keeping ammo in with the crew could cause some problems.

The AGT1500 also consumes 5 gallons on start up alone. I have seen mentioning of the LV100-5 in a few reports, but nothing delving deeper than that, GE/HW deal. Wise choices on the defense markets part.

I doubt egypt can expect USA logistic support versus Israel.

Originally Posted by SHERMAN

I doubt egypt can expect USA logistic support versus Israel.

Agreed. Not to be impartial but we favor Israel over Egypt. Not just because you guys have beautiful women, but because you guys are just awesome

Originally Posted by SHERMAN

I doubt egypt can expect USA logistic support versus Israel.

I don't get the relevance of this statement, Egypt and Israel made peace decades ago.

I don't get the relevance of this statement, Egypt and Israel made peace decades ago

That dosent stop either country from having plans to fight the other.

Originally Posted by Damien435

I don't get the relevance of this statement, Egypt and Israel made peace decades ago.

And so did Germany at the Versailles signing. Political climates change, leaders ideologies differ. It's just time, it changes things.

Aside from that, we where referring to a "what if" scenario.

Originally Posted by SHERMAN

That dosent stop either country from having plans to fight the other.

The US has plans for invading Canada, it's a great way to keep young staff officers busy.

The US dident fight 5 wars with Canada in the last 60 years, but we are getting completely off-topic.