Landmines and the Geneva convention (from the MOS thread) - Page 5




 
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April 23rd, 2004  
Redleg
 
 


There are many ways to bend the rules, but we are actually following them here.
A remote detonated charge will always be watched (by us) when it's set off, and the risk of injuring/killing innocent civilians is the same as with other weapon systems.
And in our daily training we are very aware on what we call it, it's never an AP mine, but it's a "sector-charge"...

And to the rest of you;
Here's some info about the The Antipersonnel Mine Ban Convention (APMBC):
http://www.mineaction.org/misc/dynam...iew.cfm?did=23
April 23rd, 2004  
RnderSafe
 
 
Quote:
A remote detonated charge will always be watched (by us) when it's set off, and the risk of injuring/killing innocent civilians is the same as with other weapon systems.
And in our daily training we are very aware on what we call it, it's never an AP mine, but it's a "sector-charge"...
Yes, but calling a duck a chicken won't make it a chicken .....
April 23rd, 2004  
Pollux
 
most AP mines detonate by a pressure of about 30kg
but I've seen some during my close quarters training wich detonate by a few grams. And of course they all exlode when they are moved...the newer generations....
The third generation AT mines arent triggered by pressure but by MAD.
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April 23rd, 2004  
RnderSafe
 
 
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The third generation AT mines arent triggered by pressure but by MAD.
MAD ..... Hmmmm. lol
April 23rd, 2004  
Pollux
 
*g*
Magnetic Anomaly Detectors
April 23rd, 2004  
RnderSafe
 
 
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Originally Posted by Pollux
*g*
Magnetic Anomaly Detectors
Oh thank you! Being EOD I didn't know. LOL

I was trying to subtly inform you that your comment is incorrect.
April 23rd, 2004  
Pollux
 
sure?
im absolutely sure thar our mine thrower scorpion and our artillery use that mines that are triggered by MAD.....
the mines i use are triggeres by pressure.....
but they are quite antique
April 23rd, 2004  
Sita
 

Topic: Landmines


Hello,
Unfortunately, mines are still being used throughout the world. The Lautenberg Treaty was signed several years ago banning use of APERS (anti-personnel) mines like the M16 and Bouncing Betty types. Korea did not sign that treaty so APERS mines are still used over there.

Just recently, America joined other nations in signing a treaty eliminating the use of non-metallic mines (a favorite of the terrorist network, I suppose) such as the M19 AT (anti-tank) mines because they were difficult to detect with mine detection systems.

Claymores are normally command detonated so they don't really fall into the category of offensive type mines. Their use is primarily defensive in nature (although they make interesting toys for our green berets).

It will be many years before we filter through the world's arsenal on landmines. Vestiges of previous wars where minefields were laid still crop up so it isn't just an American problem, but one of humanity itself.

Mines are not prejudicial when it comes to the ignition of its firing train.

April 23rd, 2004  
RnderSafe
 
 
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Originally Posted by Pollux
sure?
im absolutely sure thar our mine thrower scorpion and our artillery use that mines that are triggered by MAD.....
the mines i use are triggeres by pressure.....
but they are quite antique
Positive, though we may have hit a language barrier. Internet coupled with language differences, perhaps you'll explain this a little better for me:
"mines that are triggered by MAD" .. that looks to me as if you're talking about a magnetometer, which is essentially what MAD is, ans most mines won't have a detector that advanced. There are many other ways new gen mines can be triggered besides a magnetic sensor.

Pressure is "old school," but not quite out of the picture .. but by far the easiest to remove.
April 24th, 2004  
Pollux
 
Lol.....yeah maybe...
What I've been told about our AT-2 mine is that if a tank or sth drives over it, the mine discerns the disturbance in the magnetic field caused by the tank and explodes......
so I'm no pioneer, just a dumb infatrist , but i think that was what I've been told during my officers course