Japanese and Chinese, same?




 
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April 28th, 2011  
Del Boy
 

Topic: Japanese and Chinese, same?


Were the Japanese and the Chinese once the same people?
April 29th, 2011  
AVON
 

Topic: Re: Japanese and Chinese, same?


The answer is yes, at least initially. Science has traced ancestry by way of DNA and also chronosones the basic path of human migration. From Africa, through the Middle East, across Asia. This appears to be between 25,000 to 50,000 years ago.
Those who migrated to Japan remained isolated for long periods of time, so their DNA and chronoscones have changed somewhat.

If you want to research this more, Google or, Yahoo, "human migration map."
April 29th, 2011  
A Can of Man
 
 
If you go back far enough, Europeans were also Africans.
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April 29th, 2011  
AVON
 

Topic: Re: Japanese and Chinese, same?


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Originally Posted by A Can of Man
If you go back far enough, Europeans were also Africans.
In that context, who isn't African in origin?

My previous posting I forgot to post this map.
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April 29th, 2011  
A Can of Man
 
 
According to the map and timeline, the Japanese are about as Chinese as Europeans are Middle Eastern.
April 29th, 2011  
Del Boy
 
Does this help? :-

The origin of the Japanese people is not clear, but while many of their ancestors came from China, they were by no means exclusively so.

During the last Ice Age, which ended 15,000 years ago, Japan was connected to Asia through several land bridges, linking the Ryukyu Islands to Taiwan and Kyushu (Japan's south island); connecting Kyushu to the Korean peninsula and linking Hokkaido (Japan's north island) to Sakhalin and the Siberian mainland.

At this time, the Philippines and Indonesia were also connected to the Asia mainland. This allowed migrations from China, Malaysia, the Philippines and the Indonesia towards Japan 35,000 years ago. These are thought to be the ancestors of the modern Ryukyuuans (Okinawans) and the first inhabitants of Japan.

The second wave of migration were the Ainu. These were thought to have come from Siberia across from the Sakhalin islands and settled in Hokkaido and Honshu (Japan's largest island) 15,000 years ago.

These two groups are distinct from the modern Japanese who dominate the islands. It is believed that the modern Japanese are descended from the interbreeding of the Jomonera people (15,000 to 500BC), composed of Ice Age settlers and migrants from China and/or Korea, the so-called Yayoi people. Around 500BC, the Yayoi crossed the sea from Korea to Kyushu, bringing with them wet rice cultivation and horses, which led to their dominance over Kyushu to northern Honshu.

The origin of Yayoi culture has long been debated, but Chinese influence is obvious in their bronze and copper weapons. The three main symbols of the Yayoi culture are the bronze mirror, bronze sword and the royal seal stone.

DNA evidence shows that about 54% of Japanese paternal lineages and 665 of maternal lineages have been identified as being of Sino-Korean origin.

(Ayuri Webber, Reading)
April 30th, 2011  
A Can of Man
 
 
Yeah, I mean, all dem gooks look the same anyway!


The whole thing's kinda pointless. You might as well argue that the Spanish and Italians are really North Africans.
At 35,000 years ago, the whole concept of "China" etc. were absolutely meaningless.
May 1st, 2011  
Del Boy
 
You have a point there.
May 12th, 2011  
Korean Seaboy
 
 
We were all the same people.... that is, cavemen
May 14th, 2011  
muscogeemike
 
Along this line - recent DNA research indicates that W. Europeans preceded so called “Native Americans” to N. America.
 


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