Israeli Merkava mk4 vs. Egyptian M1A2 SEP - Page 3




 
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June 17th, 2009  
Lunatik
 
 
Sherman, can the 105mm penetrate Egypt's non-DU M1A2 SEP armor?
June 17th, 2009  
SHERMAN
 
 
If I would know the ansawer I would not tell you. But I believe that with some of the more advance ammo in shorter ranges yes.
June 18th, 2009  
Lunatik
 
 
I see. Also, I'm thinking penetration isn't really required to disable a tank. Crew may survive but once the FCS sensors are gone, hydraulics and servos damaged, etc., it's pretty much out of the game. So even if it couldn't penetrate the armor, a direct hit on most of the tank's surface could effectively disable the tank until significant maintenance/replacement of damaged parts.
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June 18th, 2009  
SHERMAN
 
 
Not really. The systems are also very well protected. It really dose depend.
June 18th, 2009  
Lunatik
 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tu...ITUP_Altay.jpg

Hi Naitis, the tank pictured here behind the signature ceremony isn't the design for the actual Altay MBT. That was for decor/demonstration purposes only. Altay is guaranteed to look more like a K2 than an Abrams because of the South Korean involvement.
June 18th, 2009  
Naitis1980
 
 
tnx Lunatic for the information.I just show it in a web site wiki actually and i posted.
You are right..i read an article about k2 and it says that the k2 has an ability to make his target less than the other tanks with a system that pull his gun and front place down because of new system of movement in the sunspension!!!
will the turkish altay have the same system that is a great advantage in the field of battle i think...
and it says that because of that system can be produced quiker in a line of production and to have faster repairment in a possible damage from the logistics(i mean parts of the tank)...
June 18th, 2009  
benaakatz
 
 
lunatik, i was just wondering, what are turkeys main strategic threats?
June 18th, 2009  
AVON
 

Topic: Re: Israeli Merkava mk4 vs. Egyptian M1A2 SEP


The old Egyptian Military is part of history. The new military with F-16s, M-1s, etc. come with the American "training regiment!" Poor performances in previous conflicts came about because they accepted the Soviet system, and they did not train their people well. When a country gets American Military equipment, a training regiment up to a certain level is required.
When a country gets on America's bad side (Iran, Venezuela, etc.) training and maintenance support is withdrawn. Parts and all sorts of support will have to come from countries that also have US equipment, "if" the US does not prohibit the distribution.
So, don't depend on poorly from the Egyptians troops as part of this equation. As for the match-up between the two tanks, their crew survival is very good. If maneuvering is part of the equation, the edge goes conclusively to the M-1.
June 19th, 2009  
SHERMAN
 
 
With due respect the Egyptian crews are not trained to US Army standards, and even if they are, those standards, at least in tank crew training are lower than the IDFs own standards.
 


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