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November 16th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by Cartman
what exactly could they do to prevent the holocaust? why dont you tell me what you would have done if one of the natzis would come to your doorstep with guns and take you by force? when you have no country, no where to go, no one to call for help from, and nothing to do?
i suggest you read about the Ghetto varsha rebellion... because its easy for you to talk but your family run away like cowards when they saw war is coming.
Read what I said, and not what you'd like to think I said, you idiot.

Eligible members of my family ran from Australia to the Western Desert and also to New Guinea when the war came. Explain to me how that is running away.
November 16th, 2012  
Cartman
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
Read what I said, and not what you'd like to think I said, you idiot.

Eligible members of my family ran from Australia to the Western Desert and also to New Guinea when the war came. Explain to me how that is running away.
i remember you saying you had a family here but the left when they saw whats happening between the israelis and the palestinians. you said you still had family here
November 16th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by Cartman
i remember you saying you had a family here but the left when they saw whats happening between the israelis and the palestinians. you said you still had family here
Again you demonstrate that you only see what you want to see.

I said,... that my Gt Grandfather bought land in Palestine in 1852 and took his family there two years later. The great majority of their descendants left when the Zionists started making trouble,....... not the Palestinians. There were no such thing as "Israelis" then, if you lived there at that time you were a Jewish Palestinian.. The local Arab Palestinians were good and hospitable neighbours who lived and shared in peace with my relations.

Some went back to London, others including my Gt Grandparents and Grandfather came on to Australia, the last group to leave (two families) only came to Australia in 1990s as they saw what was happening in Israel and the occupied territories and were disgusted that Jews could be inhuman as to do to another people that which the Nazis did to the Jews. Several more distant relatives still live in Israel and are ardent members of B'Tselem and that is how I came to be a contributor also.

"Real" Jews have provided the world with some of it's most illustrious Artists, Surgeons, Scholars and Philanthropists, whereas the Zionists have merely provided the world with some of it's worst liars, thugs and war criminals.

It is because of idiots like yourself who drag the name of Jewry down to the level of the Nazis that Anti Semitism is on the rise world wide. Again Jews, per se, find themselves distrusted and despised around the world and with good reason.
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November 16th, 2012  
BritinAfrica
 
 
Well said Spike.
November 16th, 2012  
Cartman
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
Again you demonstrate that you only see what you want to see.

I said,... that my Gt Grandfather bought land in Palestine in 1852 and took his family there two years later. The great majority of their descendants left when the Zionists started making trouble,....... not the Palestinians. There were no such thing as "Israelis" then, if you lived there at that time you were a Jewish Palestinian.. The local Arab Palestinians were good and hospitable neighbours who lived and shared in peace with my relations.

Some went back to London, others including my Gt Grandparents and Grandfather came on to Australia, the last group to leave (two families) only came to Australia in 1990s as they saw what was happening in Israel and the occupied territories and were disgusted that Jews could be inhuman as to do to another people that which the Nazis did to the Jews. Several more distant relatives still live in Israel and are ardent members of B'Tselem and that is how I came to be a contributor also.

"Real" Jews have provided the world with some of it's most illustrious Artists, Surgeons, Scholars and Philanthropists, whereas the Zionists have merely provided the world with some of it's worst liars, thugs and war criminals.

It is because of idiots like yourself who drag the name of Jewry down to the level of the Nazis that Anti Semitism is on the rise world wide. Again Jews, per se, find themselves distrusted and despised around the world and with good reason.
excuse me for not knowing your family history ! and excuse me again, for laughting at your comment.
zionists provided the world only with liard, thungs and war criminals? why dont you look how many ISRAELI nobel prize winners there is... and dont forget Bar Rephaeli
the only thing i see in your comments is blind hate... why the **** do you think you are better than us? you are hiding behind a screen while listening to anti-israeli media, critisizing every move we do without asking why are we doing it? i know i wont change your mind and help you see whats really happening but i dont really give a **** if some idiot half the planet away from israel is thinking... face it, you know nothing about the arabs and the israelis. you probably feel sorry for Abdel Jabari dont you? i believe so, because if your family is a part of B'Tselem that means you are supporting terrorism is the gaza strip and the west bank. dont lie to yourself and think they actually give a **** about you or your family, because if they had the chance, trust me, they would kill you all in the name of Allah and Muhammed. and let me guess, they live and Tel Aviv dont they? let me know how they feel after the 2 rockets fell in Gush Dan.
November 16th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cartman
excuse me for not knowing your family history ! and excuse me again, for laughting at your comment.
zionists provided the world only with liard, thungs and war criminals? why dont you look how many ISRAELI nobel prize winners there is... and dont forget Bar Rephaeli
the only thing i see in your comments is blind hate... why the **** do you think you are better than us?
Because quite simply 99.999% of the world's population is better than you are. You are a supporter of a regime that promotes some of the worst aspects of the Nazis, running people off their land and refusing to allow them to return. You only see hate in my comments because you don't like seeing the truth, and you know it's the truth that's what really irks you. I can't do a thing about that as I am not going to sugar coat the truth to suit you feelings.

What is even worse is that you have the gall and impertinence to go on the internet and try and justify it to a world who now knows better.

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Originally Posted by Cartman
you are hiding behind a screen while listening to anti-israeli media, critisizing every move we do without asking why are we doing it? i know i wont change your mind and help you see whats really happening but i dont really give a **** if some idiot half the planet away from israel is thinking... face it, you know nothing about the arabs and the israelis.
And you are not behind your screen? Don't be an idiot all your life, I am doing the same as you are, on my PC that hardly makes me "different" to yourself.

I criticise what you do because it is truly worthy of the harshest criticism the same as I criticise the policies of Nazism,... and for the same reasons. You can't show me, or anyone else anything about what's going on in Israel, we probably see it probably before you do, the world now has almost instantaneous News reporting, you can't hide behind Israeli censorship any more. Israel is a rogue state that will fail by it's own stupidity and thuggish behaviour. You summed up both your own and the collective Israeli mentality when you said:
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Originally Posted by Cartman
i dont really give a **** if some idiot half the planet away from israel is thinking
Just what we'd expect from a true sociopath, you have all the necessary traits to be a good Zionazi.

To the best of my knowledge, none of my relatives live in Tel Aviv although a number of them were born there. As for rockets hitting Gush Dan, I'm guessing that they realise that if you provoke people long enough you will get what you deserve.
November 16th, 2012  
Cartman
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
Because quite simply 99.999% of the world's population is better than you are. You are a supporter of a regime that promotes some of the worst aspects of the Nazis, running people off their land and refusing to allow them to return. You only see hate in my comments because you don't like seeing the truth, and you know it's the truth that's what really irks you. I can't do a thing about that as I am not going to sugar coat the truth to suit you feelings.

What is even worse is that you have the gall and impertinence to go on the internet and try and justify it to a world who now knows better.



And you are not behind your screen? Don't be an idiot all your life, I am doing the same as you are, on my PC that hardly makes me "different" to yourself.

I criticise what you do because it is truly worthy of the harshest criticism the same as I criticise the policies of Nazism,... and for the same reasons. You can't show me, or anyone else anything about what's going on in Israel, we probably see it probably before you do, the world now has almost instantaneous News reporting, you can't hide behind Israeli censorship any more. Israel is a rogue state that will fail by it's own stupidity and thuggish behaviour. You summed up both your own and the collective Israeli mentality when you said: Just what we'd expect from a true sociopath, you have all the necessary traits to be a good Zionazi.

To the best of my knowledge, none of my relatives live in Tel Aviv although a number of them were born there. As for rockets hitting Gush Dan, I'm guessing that they realise that if you provoke people long enough you will get what you deserve.
you just shown how stupid and ignorent you are.... why dont you come to israel or gaza and support the palestinians if you love them so much? have you been here before? because supporting them isnt giving them like on facebook. you are a coward behing a screen (and no im not behind a screen like you because the rockets, alarms, iron dome its all real, something you will never understand) you are just another beautyfull soul who would do anything to the poor people of palestine, until you actually need to do something and not just talk about it.
November 16th, 2012  
m551sheridan
 
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
Jeeez,..uz, I'm glad it's only your opinion.

Exactly which god is it that we have we turned from? Allah, Thor, Zeus, Ganesh, Jinhuan Yuanshuai, Hanuman, or maybe the great white bogeyman in the sky? ...

So now it's god's fault.

It's quite OK and reasonable, for a small number of countries, who were world powers at the time to just give the land of another people to the Jews in a belated effort at soothing their own guilt for not having done anything to prevent the holocaust. But if those people who have lived there for millenia should wish to resist against overwhelming odds, they are terrorists.

Yep,... you are right, it's gods fault, I really don't know if you are a christian or a certifiable idiot, but it would seem in this case, that it means exactly the same thing.
since the arrival of Jesus Christ, the old was replaced with the new... since His time the bottom line is you put your faith in Him or you be in deep trouble. When I say we have turned out backs on GOD I mean HIS son.... believe what you will, it is your choice but Jesus spelled it out quite clearly. The world has had a chance to know HIM and accept HIM... again, your choice HE pushes no one to him..... I will not comment further on this thread, good day.
November 16th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by LeEnfield
VDKMS.......Just who should live where as all over the world countries have been ruled by invaders and although the government of those invaders have gone many generations of those invaders remain behind and become a part of that country.
In Britain we have seen the Romans, Vikings, Angels, Saxons then the Normans all come and form the population. The same has happened in Palestine and Israel and to say that they have no rights there as they were invaders two thousand years ago does not hold water. More armies have passed over this section of land than probably any other and far a longer period of time. The Jews took by force and lost it just the same as the people they defeated. When Israel was formed it was given certain borders and like those armies before have pushed outwards driving the people that live there out and as history has shown that all armies come and go and other forces come into play and unless Israel can come to peace with its neighbours it will eventually get defeated.
Israel did not start the fight. From day one they were attacked by several Arab armies with the intention of the destruction of the new state. It turned out otherwise. Those attacks are still occuring albeit on a lesser scale (Hamas , Hezbollah). If everyone is allowed to form a new state, so does the Jews.
Even from the beginning of the jewish immigration it was the Arabs who attacked not the Jews. The Jews only defended themselves until they had enough and started to retaliate. The same happens now in Gaza. The media didn't pay attention to the hundreds of rockets Hamas fired on Israel but when Israel said enough is enough and retaliated they were branded (in the Arab world) as the attackers. Hamas does not want peace because in its covenant is written the destruction of Israel. My question to you is: how do you make peace with a neighbour who wants your destruction?

As I have said from in the beginning, the problem is not the Jews, the problem is non-muslims having a country on muslim ground. Replace the Jews/Israel with Christians/whatever name and you will have the same conflict. The PA is more or less secular and give less troubles than Hamas who is in fact a fanatic religious group. Same with Hezbollah, same with Iran. Israel made peace with Jordan (secular) and Egypt (secular for the moment). Lebanon and Syria did not attack Israel so there were no retaliations. It's peacefull. When Israel falls what country will be next? Did you know that Erdogan (Turkey) when he officially visited Gernany he did not go first to Merkel? He went first to the Turkish population and told them not to integrate.
November 16th, 2012  
Cartman
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VDKMS
Israel did not start the fight. From day one they were attacked by several Arab armies with the intention of the destruction of the new state. It turned out otherwise. Those attacks are still occuring albeit on a lesser scale (Hamas , Hezbollah). If everyone is allowed to form a new state, so does the Jews.
Even from the beginning of the jewish immigration it was the Arabs who attacked not the Jews. The Jews only defended themselves until they had enough and started to retaliate. The same happens now in Gaza. The media didn't pay attention to the hundreds of rockets Hamas fired on Israel but when Israel said enough is enough and retaliated they were branded (in the Arab world) as the attackers. Hamas does not want peace because in its covenant is written the destruction of Israel. My question to you is: how do you make peace with a neighbour who wants your destruction?

As I have said from in the beginning, the problem is not the Jews, the problem is non-muslims having a country on muslim ground. Replace the Jews/Israel with Christians/whatever name and you will have the same conflict. The PA is more or less secular and give less troubles than Hamas who is in fact a fanatic religious group. Same with Hezbollah, same with Iran. Israel made peace with Jordan (secular) and Egypt (secular for the moment). Lebanon and Syria did not attack Israel so there were no retaliations. It's peacefull. When Israel falls what country will be next? Did you know that Erdogan (Turkey) when he officially visited Gernany he did not go first to Merkel? He went first to the Turkish population and told them not to integrate.
a few days ago Assad's army fired a few projectiles into israeli territory. israel reacted when it happened again, and when soldiers fired on IDF forces. luckily it didnt escalate any further...
 


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