Israel, again - Page 8




 
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Boots
 
October 5th, 2011  
moshe
 
Palestinian lands? when? During the Ottoman 450 year rule there was no reference to Palestine!!! The Turks are not Arabs!!!!
October 6th, 2011  
senojekips
 
 
Pal·es·tine (pl-stn)
Often called "the Holy Land." A historical region of southwest Asia at the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea and roughly coextensive with modern Israel and the West Bank.

1. (Placename) Also called the Holy Land Canaan the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea in which most of the biblical narrative is located
2. (Historical Terms) the province of the Roman Empire in this region
3. (Historical Terms) the former British mandatory territory created by the League of Nations in 1922 (but effective from 1920), and including all of the present territories of Israel and Jordan between whom it was partitioned by the UN in 1948

Pal·es·tin·ian (pl-stn-an)
A resident of Palestine

Palestinian Arabic is a Levantine Arabic dialect subgroup spoken by Palestinians.
October 6th, 2011  
Ted
 
 
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Originally Posted by moshe
Palestinian lands? when? During the Ottoman 450 year rule there was no reference to Palestine!!! The Turks are not Arabs!!!!
Well, on numerous occasions there have been referrals to the region of "Palestine" which are not hard to look up. Believing these references to be true is something else. Perhaps you believe the Holy Book to be true, than you can look it up in:
* Joel 3: 1 - 4
* Genesis 10: 15 - 18

The fact that the work "Talmud de-Eretz Yisrael" is also commonly know as the "Palestinian Talmud" sort of implies that there is a general acceptance of a region named "Palestine", which predates the Ottoman Empire. (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/..._&_mishna.html)

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Boots
October 6th, 2011  
bulldogg
 
 
Its a shame that the kindergarten class my son is in, which has children from five different religions and eight different countries, have learned to share and accept difference in less than five years and its how many years now for the Jews and Arabs?
October 6th, 2011  
Ted
 
 
It's like the Peter Pan story... somehow and some where down the line we seem to lose this ability to share. This usually coincides when we become aware that some are stronger than others....
October 6th, 2011  
moshe
 
Pal·es·tine (pl-stn)
Often called "the Holy Land." A historical region of southwest Asia at the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea and roughly coextensive with modern Israel and the West Bank.

Taking a modern dictionary proves nothing other than pathetic research. In 120 in the Common Era Bar Kachbah made a bloody revolt against the Roman empire. The revolt last about 4 years. At its termination 1/2 of the Jewish population of the 2nd Commonwealth lay dead. It was a very bitterly fought war. The Romans sold the survivors of the 2nd common wealth of Israel into slavery and scattered them across the Roman empire. It forbade Jews to live in Jerusalem and renamed it Aelia Capitolina in 135 CE.

Etymology: The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the region synonymous with that defined in modern times was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece. Herodotus wrote of a 'district of Syria, called Palaistinê" . The term was first used to denote an official province in c.135 CE, when the Roman authorities, following the suppression of the Bar Kokhba Revolt, combined Iudaea Province with Galilee and other surrounding cities such as Ashkelon to form "Syria Palaestina" (Syria Palaestina), which some scholars state was in order to complete the dissociation with Judaea.

Today Arabs have made this myth called the Palestinian people. If so then Syria is the natural home for these Arabs! Divide Syria and let the 2 Arab states share Damascus as their common Capital.
October 6th, 2011  
moshe
 
There is the Babylonian Talmud and the Jerushalmi Talmud. This absurd notion of the Jerushalmi being the Palestinian Talmud now that's really funny. Fools make me laugh.
October 6th, 2011  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by moshe
Pal·es·tine (pl-stn)
Often called "the Holy Land." A historical region of southwest Asia at the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea and roughly coextensive with modern Israel and the West Bank.

Taking a modern dictionary proves nothing other than pathetic research.
Yes Moshe, that's right. The dictionary is incorrect and your rather lame Zionist propaganda is right. It would seem that your arrogance is only exceeded by your ignorance.

What a pity that no one other than some Jews support your pathetic denials.

You told me there was no mention of Palestinians, implying that they did not exist, well you were wrong weren't you, And anyway even if you were right the Arabs (and a small number of Jews) living in Palestine prior to 1947 are still the "owners" of the land regardless of what anyone calls them.
October 6th, 2011  
moshe
 
Yes Moshe, that's right. The dictionary is incorrect and your rather lame Zionist propaganda is right. It would seem that your arrogance is only exceeded by your ignorance.

Roll over play dead! Sit! Beg! If you want to be obtuse like a bowling ball that's your problem not mine. The information i brought came from a quick search in the Encyclopedia - Wikipedia. Idiot goyim love labeling Jews: you fools blamed us for the black plague to red starch growing on your bread which you believed was the body of god ... to drinking your blood etc etc. Now your newest blame game of slander is Zionism. Idiots like you know nothing. Zionism as a political movement of the late 19th century centered upon Jews equal rights to self determination ... in an age where peoples all over the world were demanding this very same right. Its natural that you agree with towel head propaganda b/c both Arabs and pigs like yourself reject the equality of Jews to determine their own national identities. You buy into this Arab mythology of the down trodden Palestinians ... its your new Jesus who took upon himself all the sins of the world.

If a guy goes to a doctor and receives a prognosis of cancer its natural to go get a 2nd opinion. But you have your lame dictionary definition and its sacred like your bread and wine which transforms into god.
October 6th, 2011  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by moshe
Today Arabs have made this myth called the Palestinian people. If so then Syria is the natural home for these Arabs! Divide Syria and let the 2 Arab states share Damascus as their common Capital.
Sounds like a good idea however to be fair since we are discussing Syria in its ancient form we should use a map of Syria from antiquity:


Map of Ancient Syria. From The Atlas of Ancient and Classical Geography, by Samuel Butler, Ernest Rhys, editor (1907, repr. 1908).

So I suggest a good spot would be the southern tip of the map?

Oh wait it is already marked on there no extra work required.

ps. Sorry about the size of the image.