Iraq's Legacy of Terror: Mass Graves - Page 3




 
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Boots
 
May 3rd, 2005  
Doc.S
 

Topic: Re-Iraq's Legacy of Terror: Mass Graves


Well it is not so hard to understand that the_13th_redneck

The left doesn`t see or chooses not to see todays or the past communism victims. You find Jews, ppl like me and others amongs them. The lefts has never bothered to see the obvious with their own history. There are still swedish former communists in the north that returned from the U.S.S.R after their dream of nirvana was crushed with bullets and assault and battery togheter with both physical and psychological abuse for years. The so called RussianSwedes was in the dark untill last year when an fairly independent TV documentary was shown on swedish television.

The older generation of communists did reluctant excuse their lack of interest to help or acknowledge the home comming victims, and the existence of the U.S.S.R dreamland project that they launched here in sweden to get more support from their commrads on the other side of the Iron curtain when sweeds left sweden to help the communist dreamland to grow.

The familys openly told the rest of the swedish ppl what the leftwing had done to them, IMO the leftwing supported and still do (but not for the public eye) what Stalins gorillas did do to the RussianSwedes. When the RussianSwedes finaly could flee or leave that system in Russia and return to sweden they were expeled as members of the leftwing in sweden, and not only that, the left in sweden did drive their own cold war against those ppl.

After years of tyranny that our leftwing "didnt" acknowledge untill 2004 when this documentary was released, the leftwing loosed voters and members point blank down. The former RussianSwedes got their excuse reluctant. Our leftwing party did know the whole story but they never talked about it, they choosed not to see and to forget as the left always do when it comes to the obvious.

Among the younger generations and the young leftwing you didnt find any compassion towards the RussianSwedes and no excuse eather. But they did tell the swedish ppl that Cuba is a democratic country and that was about all that happend. So you see guys. The left will never see the pure evil in that system, whatever the cost may be in the end of human life. They can call President George Bush the devil himself, but they will never see their own stupidity when it comes to the silent victims of the communist system.

Stalin did kill many more ppl then Adolf Hitler ever did. But as a former allied towards the West we couldnt afford to show that in our news at the time eather. That would have made the allied winner looked less gracius then we have been taught in school and at home in different documentarys on telly.

Today the taboo about the true history about the great war has been released towards the public, but in carefull portions. Dont forget, the leftwing is probably the strongest political force in the entire EU, because I count in Socialists too. The same crap IMHO you find there but a less destructive one in that way that it takes more time to reach the final goal. Saddam Hussein was the leftwing hero, he idolized their great hero. So what do you expect from the leftwing media and parts of Europe?

No one is so blind, as the one that chooses not to see...

Doc.S
May 3rd, 2005  
Redleg
 
 
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Originally Posted by Jack_Mordino
About the forum rules: Red-font warning me is not the way to go. I didn't insult anyone. Perhaps it is annoying to see views such as mine but this is supposed to be an international forum. If views different than the ones that sound good to american ears cannot be posted then by all means state it. The hard fact situation is in fact so complicated that in the very core of it the only hard fact one can have about an event is to be there and see it by himself.
The problems is not your views, but your first post about the 400,000 civilian casualties without any kind of source or evidence.....
Please send me a PM (Button at the bottom of my post...) if you have any problems with the forum rules or how this forum is being moderated.
And I would also suggest that you take a look at my flag, and the flags of many of the other members here as well first before commenting (more) on american ears etc.....

Now, let's stay on topic here from now on.

Thanks.
May 3rd, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
i may be prepared to believe 400 k died from bombing in nam, in korea, but not in iraq

provided the number of people in industralized areas of iraq ( where most bombings occured), provided the fact that if 400 k died in a couple weeks of bombing where was the bodies

some might incline to say those mass graves were actually those 400 k died by american bombing, well, some DNA test wuld tell
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Boots
May 4th, 2005  
Arclight
 
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Originally Posted by gladius
If you don't hate him as you say, then you must agree that the discovery of these mass graves deserve priority from everyone including the media.

Whatever Bush did is now moot concerning the severety of this find.
Though I still hold my previously stated opinions, I agree that these mass graves should hold more attention.
May 4th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
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some might incline to say those mass graves were actually those 400 k died by american bombing, well, some DNA test wuld tell
Except that the majority of ones that have been investigated so far date from the time of the killing of the Kurds back in the early 1980s. Quite awhile even before Desert Storm in 1991. The clothing and posessions among the dead are Kurdish.
May 4th, 2005  
grizzly
 
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Originally Posted by gladius
You're right the media simply lacthed on to the no WMD's in Iraq because thats the only thing that they could make stick.

The ultimate threat was Saddam himself, he didn't exactly have a good track record of being a nice guy. The fact the media doesn't latch on to the mass graves is because it make a good case for the President. It all about media perspective, don't anyone tell me they are not biased.

There must be some really hard core hatin' of Bush to ignore the mass graves of hundreds of thousands.
Ya man ur right. Saddam was a real . He had rape romms and torture chambers that he used on his citizens. people say that the war is wrong and that we are husting the Iraqs. When they say this they must be uneduacated about the war to be so mad at Bush for taking Saddam out of control of Iraq. We also found all those labs.I think that the press said they might not be labs but they are. The media doesnt report all of these because it says that the gov. is doing a good thing.

If anyone does question my sorces i have family and friends that work in the State Dept. and the Peatagon.
May 5th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
rape rooms? care to show me one in pic?
May 5th, 2005  
CABAL
 
 
I believe one of Saddam's Infamous sons Uday was notorious for raping women although there was no evidence of Saddam Hussein being directly involved.
May 5th, 2005  
Doc.S
 

Topic: Re-Iraq's Legacy of Terror: Mass Graves


MadeInChina

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rape rooms? care to show me one in pic?
I have seen one in a documentary shown in sweden that was sent after the change of the regime in Iraq 2003. This was shown before the prison scandal. However I cant find any picīs from the documentary on google that is, but I have seen a room for that kind of torture. The design of that room talked for itself, a shocking discovery I tell you. But the news spin and all this anti-war thingy together with the prison scandal overriding the interest of that discovery. Former Iraqi prisoners told the crew for the documentary about this horrors. According to the former prisoners they was forced to listen to women that was raped in the room next to them. Mr Uday son of Saddam Hussein was well known for his sociopat behavior. "Unfortunate" I cant find the picīs from that chamber anywhere, perhaps someone else with more time to look can find them.


Doc.S
May 5th, 2005  
Missileer
 
 
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Originally Posted by 03USMC
Nice Rhetoric .....Looks good on ya. So are we to assume you cannot provide the facts to lend creedence to your claim of 400,000 civilian causalties during the air phase of Desert Shield/Desert Storm?
I feel so....so used and propagandized.