Iranians threatened U.S. ships in Hormuz: Pentagon - Page 2




 
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January 8th, 2008  
Fox
 
 
Gave them the warning shoots or something. heh
January 8th, 2008  
Damien435
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureMedic
We are already fighting a 2 front war...we don't need to make it 3.
We're already fighting Iran in Iraq, so it'd only be a two and a half front war. Besides, these boats used by the Iranians were probably little more than fishing boats with a .50 cal mounted on front. We've destroyed their Navy once, doing it again won't be any harder.
January 8th, 2008  
Fox
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien435
We're already fighting Iran in Iraq, so it'd only be a two and a half front war. Besides, these boats used by the Iranians were probably little more than fishing boats with a .50 cal mounted on front. We've destroyed their Navy once, doing it again won't be any harder.
When did we destroyed their Navy? Did I miss something from the history book? heh
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January 8th, 2008  
!LH@N
 
I don't thing a war with Iran would be good for the US, Iran is a big big country.
I was wondering, is that place where the event happened actually Iranian territory?

I read the article, too:
-"a combination employed to great effect on the ground in southern Lebanon by Iran’s protege, the Lebanese Shiite Hizballah, in its war with Israel this summer"
Are you kidding me? Israel bombed the living sh*t out of them.

-"the Iranian concept of Alavi/Ashurai warfare"
-"Based on Shiite religious concepts"
Are you serious???

The article sounds pretty interesting, but I can't stand that religious propaganda.

Regards,
Il
January 8th, 2008  
Damien435
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
When did we destroyed their Navy? Did I miss something from the history book? heh

Link

Destroyed was going a bit far. Emasculated is a better word.
January 12th, 2008  
rock45
 

Topic: Question this


Damien435
Is the below true was the screen used for sticky notes? I have a problem with this web site as a source in most cases is this real? Thanks


  • A lack of training contributed to the disaster.
It was, however, a known fact that many of the senior officers on board the Vincennes knew very little about computerized warfare. The tactical officer for surface warfare, Lt Cmdr Guillory, knew so little that he routinely used his computer screens as a surface for sticky notes instead. Petty Officer Anderson, who missed Flight 655 on the schedule because it was so dark, also later claimed that he was confused by the gulf's four different time zones, something proper training could have easily helped with. Lt Clay Zocher was the boss of Air Alley, which was responsible for air warfare, but he had only stood watch at that post twice before and had never fully learned and mastered the console routines. In fact, when he was finally given the green light to fire upon the incoming aircraft, he pressed the wrong keys 23 times, until a veteran petty officer leaned over and hit the right ones. Nerves were shattered, and the training seemed nonexistent."[21]

Link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Ai...ential_factors
January 14th, 2008  
Damien435
 
 
I would bet that entire paragraph is true. This was after 1988 and computers were pretty new. This was, I believe, one of the first AEGIS ships launched and it was in the transition from the wide open, windows everywhere type of bridge/CIC we saw on WWII-era ships to darkened, no windows anywhere, only light available comes from computer screens, buttons and dials sort of CIC. All lessons learned in warfare come from trial and error/mistakes made in the past. This was an example where mistakes were made and we (hopefully) learned from them and use them as guides on what not do for our future men and women in uniform. I believe an investigation by the Navy ruled that the Iran Air incident was the result of human error and tweaking the existing evidence to fit the assumptions of the crew. So lack of training almost certainly had an impact. A civilian airliner was shot down, obviously mistakes were made, I wouldn't be surprised if the above paragraph turns out to be quite accurate.
 


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