Is Iran a Threat? - Page 12




 
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Is Iran a Threat?
 
June 10th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
Is Iran a Threat?
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Originally Posted by hamidreza
You say this when you donít have anything else to say. I expect you to bring some reasons to justify your large nuke arsenals, the criminal Israel nukes or at least your modernization programs. Although I think it wouldnít be a logical reason.
The large nuke arsenal of the USA and Russia is because of the cold war, not because of Iran. As long as any other country has nukes the US nor Russia nor China will abandon them.

There is no proof Israel has nuclear weapons allthough everyone thinks they have.
Israel is also the only country that has been attacked so many times in such a short period of time by so many nations (all muslim and Arabic). From the foundation of Israel up untill now Iran has not been attacked once.

About freedom of press. In the "west" you can write and read almost anything, even pro Al Qaida articles or anti Iran. Your country does not even allow the BBC to transmit its TV channel.

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June 11th, 2012  
hamidreza
 
You are free in the west and can say your opinions as a poor man who is free to buy an expensive house.
June 11th, 2012  
benaakatz
 
 
in my mind it all comes down to religion/dictatorship.

the sooner the world is rid of countries/regimes run by religion or dictatorship, the better.

that's why i throw my support behind the west, as they are secular democracies

and that is why many westerners feel the iranian regime, note not iran itself, is a growing threat
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Is Iran a Threat?
June 11th, 2012  
MontyB
 
 
No it comes down to choice, if people are happy with the system of government they have then so be it after all Democracy is rule by the people.
The west spends far too much time trying to mould everything into an image of what it believes is right but in almost every instances it fails to understand the wishes of people it is pretending to help.
June 11th, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
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Originally Posted by MontyB
No it comes down to choice, if people are happy with the system of government they have then so be it after all Democracy is rule by the people.
The west spends far too much time trying to mould everything into an image of what it believes is right but in almost every instances it fails to understand the wishes of people it is pretending to help.

Democracy is actually not "ruled by the people" further studies needed, even if the word means that. The closest to it is Switzerland; it is called "direct democracy."
June 11th, 2012  
Der Alte
 
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Originally Posted by benaakatz
in my mind it all comes down to religion/dictatorship.

the sooner the world is rid of countries/regimes run by religion or dictatorship, the better.

that's why i throw my support behind the west, as they are secular democracies

and that is why many westerners feel the iranian regime, note not iran itself, is a growing threat
If we are to understand anything at all about what has happened in the past and is happening today in the Muslim world, we must appreciate the universality and centrality of religion as a factor in the lives of the Muslim peoples.

Regardless of how an Islamic state chooses to structure its government, any process of reform will only be successful if Muslims are allowed to be Muslims and to retain their core ideals. The final realization of human rights in the Islamic world may not occur overnight, but even the Prophet Muhammad recognized social reform as an achievable, but gradual, goal.
June 11th, 2012  
benaakatz
 
 
i guess my ideal is for a world where religion has no influence at all in the policies of a state.

education is what's needed in the islamic world. until they go through some sort of enlightenment, there is little hope for a brighter future for these countries in my opinion. trying to be all PC about it doesn't help us or them in the long run
June 12th, 2012  
hamidreza
 
Quote:
benaakatz:
i guess my ideal is for a world where religion has no influence at all in the policies of a state.

education is what's needed in the islamic world. until they go through some sort of enlightenment, there is little hope for a brighter future for these countries in my opinion. trying to be all PC about it doesn't help us or them in the long run
You want to enlighten us? At the time your ancestors were living in the center and north of Europe jungles, our ancestors were founding the basis of the world civilization in Sumer, Egypt, Persia and Babylon in Middle East 5000 years ago. You understood the mean of civilization word when you found the Christianity religion which had emerged in the Middle East.
June 12th, 2012  
Der Alte
 
Well, The United States remains a deeply religious country and religion plays an inextricably critical role in American politics. Controversy over issues such as abortion is fueled by opposition in the Catholic Church and among conservative Protestants, candidates for the presidency are questioned about their religious beliefs, and the separation of church and state remains hotly contested.
June 12th, 2012  
Yossarian
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Alte
Well, The United States remains a deeply religious country and religion plays an inextricably critical role in American politics. Controversy over issues such as abortion is fueled by opposition in the Catholic Church and among conservative Protestants, candidates for the presidency are questioned about their religious beliefs, and the separation of church and state remains hotly contested.

Begs the question of if we will ever grow up and be able to sperate our personal affairs and emotions out of the critical affairs of goverment and foerign policy.

I don't understand how difficult this is, it's like keeping the gossip down at the work place.
 


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