Iran and nukes - Page 4




 
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September 22nd, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Pakistan has nukes. They are an important deterent to Indian hostility. Whether they should have gotten them or not is irrelevant at this point, but there is a perceived need for Pakistan. What is Iran's excuse?
September 22nd, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
So by Frog's logic, because the US has the best military in the world, we should always attack a country regardless of other options? Unless we attack Iran and our troops are repelled, there is no base to Iranian military supremacy.

But like I said before, it is not their initial military that's dangerous to the US, rather, the insurgency/terrorist groups that would arise as a direct mirror of Iraq. Guerilla warfare is the most dangerous and lengthy form of combat ever conceived, you don't want to pit yourself in that on purpose, regardless of how technologically superior you are.

This is why the Iranian threat would probably be best met with Special Forces and/or airstrike. Honestly, I think the SF would be the better bet. Train some folks on Unconventional Warfare..... create an upriseing. Unlike Iraq, I don't believe Iran has a gustapo like organization to surpress upriseings, plus many sectors of Iran have sympathetic security forces towards rebellious factions. Regime change without US occupation, and the nuclear threat nullified.

But of course, I'm sure this is 100x more difficult to pull off than I just made it sound, but it sure beats a costly invasion/occupation!
September 23rd, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
No Frog is saying the U.S. cannot do anything about the Iranians having their Nukes. It's one of his the U.S. is weak things that he likes to trot out.
And yes the Iranians have strong units within the Revoluntionary Guard that would and could surpress a rebellion just as effectivly as SAVAK would have in the days of the Shah.
I would say an airstrike directed at their facilities would be better than use of Spec ops.
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September 23rd, 2004  
sunb!
 
 
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I would say an airstrike directed at their facilities would be better than use of Spec ops.
Why do you think this is better? Explain please....
September 23rd, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
The use of Special Forces.Which ever you choose to use SF, SEAL etc. has a longer logistic line. When you have operators on the ground you need to support them to some extent. If you deploy say an SF A team or teams to train insurgents they still have to be supported.
The destruction of facilties if that is your goal would entail an insertion and an extraction of the force that carried it out. The deployment of ground forces the insertion and extraction is the pucker factor time.

Use of an air strike puts less friendly lives at risk and IMO serves a better chance at target destruction in this case.
September 23rd, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
Air Strike, yes common people all think this is the best way to destroy the nuke facilities. But I have talked with Iranians about this, they say the air strikes will be of no use, because the Iranian nuke facilities are mostly built in the mountains and under grounds.

If you started air strike, then he*l comes, Iran will missile back to Israel, and in the mean time, fasten the speed of building nukes (maybe they already have nuke device, who knows).
September 23rd, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Yeah I just don't know if an airstrike would do the trick altogether. Besides, the current Iranian regime isn't exactly the berries..... a upriseing would help greatly
September 24th, 2004  
EternalOne
 
Everyone wants a "Peace Maker" these days! its kinda sad I wish Nukes had never been invented!!!

Rush has an awsome song that is about it!!! cant remember what its called off hand!
September 24th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Its mind-boggling how much potential Iran has (compared to most Muslim nations), and most of it is wasted by the current regime. A higher priority toward modernizing their technology and industry would go a long ways. Fundamentalist Muslim regimes tend to stagnate development in those areas.
September 24th, 2004  
Mark Conley
 
 
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Originally Posted by EternalOne
Everyone wants a "Peace Maker" these days! its kinda sad I wish Nukes had never been invented!!!

Rush has an awsome song that is about it!!! cant remember what its called off hand!
slightly off topic...but they came out with two songs that might have something to do with nukes

one was "Distance early warning" the other was the "manhatten project" which one do you think you heard?