Iran and nukes - Page 2




 
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September 20th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Welcome, anti-American guest! Glad to have you here! Anyways, the international community, by and large, agree with us in ridding the world of future nuclear possession. Why? Because It's a very dangerous weapon!!! Many nations have cooperated in disarming themselves. The reason why countries like Iran shouldn't have nuclear materials or a complete bomb is because they're.... unstable... in a sense.

Of course our possession of nuclear weapons makes people feel insecure, actually, I think possession has kept a large part of the world in-check for a long time. We probably would have had two more world wars if it hadn't been for nuclear technology!

And no, I don't remember the media telling me that. Oh woe is me!! the beauty of those random islands, GONE!!
September 20th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
Bottom line is that Iran with nukes is like a 5 year old with locked and loaded AK47....The Iranis will use their nukes with no fear....I still dont get why Israel or the US dont mount some sort of assault on Irans nuclear installations.
September 20th, 2004  
Xion
 
I'm not anti-american , i'm NOT anti-ANYTHING

USA is a powerful nation and has had many important contributions to the world in terms of military tecnology and other stuff.

I was just trying to provide a different point of view there.

Cheers
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September 20th, 2004  
Xion
 
Well common now lol don't tell that America is seriously concerned about stability/peace in the world , if they were they would have themselves given it up completely

"I think" the main reason America doesn't want any 'more' countries in the world to possess nuclear weapons is because they wanna retain their supremacy and not give any 'more' nations a chance to challenge it.

Most amricans would disagree to this but yeah there's no fun in everyone talking all goodie goodie bout USA
September 20th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
oops, sorry, you just sounded like one of the countless nation haters that waltz in here every so often.

I don't see how disarming ourselves would help the world..? It would be suicide for the US, we still have enemies. Without MAD, errrm, we're screwed. Disarming ourselves so the commies and crazy rougue states can bomb us? You bet

And of course we want to retain supremacy, that's the basics of survival!

Anyways, back on topic.

I'm not sure how to stop Iran, but I do know invasion is totally out of the question, the insurgency would be ten times as bad as Iraq.
September 22nd, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
Ah yes, America and her nukes.

We are the only country to use nukes in war. But at the time, it was believed to be the right thing to do. I think every Marine who fought and survived at Iwo Jima would have supported using the bomb. There were 27,000 Japanese who killed or wounded 25,000 (mostly Marine) US personnel. Use those numbers for the Japanese mainland and the US would have entered the meat grinder.

We, as Americans, are not going to use nukes as a first strike weapon. Look at the countries that have attained nukes in the last 10 years or are trying to get them; Iraq, Iraq, North Korea, to a lesser extent India and Pakistan. I am sorry, but those countries are not exactly the ones who are going to set the example for the rest of the world. I do not trust those countries with nukes and I will support anything that stops them from developing anything else

Nukes and WMD's are something that most people wish were never invented.
September 22nd, 2004  
xman
 
Well... What about Israel?
Perhaps, such country is absent in the world for you.
You Americans if you respect israel that has nuclear weapons then you must respect every country that is getting nuclear weapons.Some reals are pretty hurt for Americans.
What is true that nobody believe your politics of hypocrisy in the world anymore.
September 22nd, 2004  
sunb!
 
 

Topic: Diplomatic pressure


Hopefully this problem can be solved by diplomatic means before things get out of hand.

What concerns me the most is a military operation before all diplomatic options are tried. It could turn out nasty with USA and allied forces involved in both Iraq and Iran at the same time. If North Korea decides to take a move on South Korea things are going straight to
September 22nd, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
xman, so you're telling me that since Israel has nukes that the whole world should be entitled to them. Where is your logic?

Can you garauntee me that if the US gave every muslim nation a nuke that Israel would not get attacked? Let's remember that the Arab nations have a slight history of attacking Israel. Here is what would happen. Some radical group would stage a coup, get the nuke, lob it at Israel and start WWIII.

The world is best off without nukes, better off with no new nukes and worst off if everyone has nukes.
September 22nd, 2004  
xman
 
My logic is very simple.Almost of every country in the world has enemy nations.
If you say Israel is right to have nukes,I say that Why are the other nations no right to handle nukes?

Try be honest.How much land does Israel has when it was founded and now how much land does it has?The problem is regarded with that difference.

I agree you little for your the last clause.But in my opinion, some of big countries must have nukes reciprocal to deterrence to start a war.
Imagine If America and Russia has no nukes, many times World Wars would have been done.Thanks to God for atomic power.
May be incredible opinion but it is really true.