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Good point, RnderSafe...I let myself get drawn off-topic with my last post. Too early in the morning, I guess. *self-conscious chuckle* Sorry about that.
Anyway, back to the thread... A successful invasion on American soil would depend on how the defender defined success. From what I have seen in previous posts in this thread, it's generally assumed that the invading force is attempting to supplant the American government with one of his own choosing. However, there are other possibilities. For example, let's assume a coalition of foreign governments (we'll call it the Union for World Prosperity) decides that America needs to set aside part of it's territory (Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, and South Carolina) to create "Graceland", an independant homeland for what the UWP claims a disaffected and persecuted minority of Elvis worshippers. When the US refuses to acceed to the UWPs demands, the member nations of the UWP send "peacekeepers" to Graceland in order to provide security and protection for the Elvis-ites. The UWP informs the US that any attacks upon the Peacekeepers will be considered an attack upon the member nations themselves... |
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Well if I can give my comment here, its too widespread an opinion that UK is someway hired by USA to followo suit in wars or military operations such as Iraq 1 and 2 , or Libya's bombings, or others. Uk gave its consent through its legimitized and legally elected Parliament. As Mark put it, the U.S. didn't really need any extra troops to do the job. Thi should not sound cocky: post war chaos is better dealable with thanks to international support, but actual fighting doesnt call for help on behalf of the US. I mean Her Majesty's Troops are well trained and some elite corps are top in the world ( I'm not too much into it, but I think I know ), they did an excellent job south in Basra and places around. But the USA needing to hire UK troops ? Give a break. |
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Sorry about the whole who's best thing - no as a servent of Her Majesty i do as Her Majestys Britanic Government tells me, and if than involves fighting alongside American Troops then i will do so. I was probably going into the whole whops best thing as i had just come back from the NAAFI and at 80p a pint and lots of talk about what had gone on in the gulf there were stories about the gun-ho atitude of american troops, although i am sure this is a generalisation and not all toops are like that, so i appologise. We are after all, all soldiers fighting for our Country.
On invading america, i think that the most likely senario, if any are likely would be say the southern states breaking free of the nothern states, so becoming indipendant and creating a new county. If they could muster the force and get a strong enough leader and war councel then i think that this could be possible. |
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hmmm well that post seems to support the fall from within scenario, and really not an invasion per say, unless the objct was the outside support of a country (lets say Great Briton) sends troops and materials to a dissatisfied US reigon that attempts to pull out of the federation (lets say the Southern states, for laughs an giggles.). I believe this almost follows what occured during the American Civil war, and we all have heard how that turned out back in 1861-65.
Good thinking post...like to see more! |
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Looking back at my scenario, I can see how it can be seen as an internally-generated war of secession similar to the American Civil War. The geographic parallel is a coincidence, though...I picked Elvis-worshippers at random and a few states that would give them some beachfront property.
Actually, what I had in mind was a forceful attempt at the balkinazation of America by an outside entity. In a nutshell, the UWP is saying something along the lines of "With our Union, America isn't the biggest kid on the block anymore. We are going to create a homeland for the Elvis-ites (regardless if the Elvis worshippers want one or not) because we think this will provide stability in the area." |
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Ofcorse it's possible to invade the USA.
For example, i am sure that Russia could do that. It easy, If you want to use nuclear weapons than this is what you have to do: 1. make a nuke strike on all the major cities and military bases. (Russia has nuclear missiles which are very hard to intercept). 2. Move in with land forces that have anti radiation sutes (Russian tanks have NBC protection. NBC= Nuclear, Biological, Chemical). and clame the teritory yours. If you do not wish to use nuclear weapons than this is what you have to do: 1.Start the attack by bombarding cities and military bases with naval artillary (guns and cruise missiles). Use submarines and other ships to fight the USA navy. 2. send in fighters to intercept the american fighters (when an air battle game was made in india, indian pilots using Russian fighters fought against USA pilots using USA fighters. The result: india won 90%of the battles. when a nother game like that was made in Alaska, Russian pilots using Russian planes fought against USA pilots using USA fighters. Russia won 100% or all the battles! The pentagon even said that Russian fighters where better than that of the americans). Also use AAA from your ships. 3. When your fighters controll the sky use ground attack planes to destroy AAA (AAA=Anti Aircraft Artillary) and heavy bombers to bomb cities and military bases or ground targets. 4. land your troops on shore and fight the remaning USA troops on the ground. USA troops won't stand a chance against you (Russian tanks are much better than USA tanks and Russian tanks are in much larger numbers. And since you rule the skies, you can use your gunship helicopters and ground attack planes to help you. You can also use artillary to help you. And if USA supporters like UK try to help, than you could always use your supporters to help you. So you see, the all mighty USA dosen't seem mighty anymore. |
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![]() Someone was playing red alert too much.... ![]() Russia has 150 million people, America has 300 million, every American would take gun and fight for our country, and we know America better than Rooskies... ![]() Every home in America has at least one rifle and gun... |
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first of all about red alert: I like red alert but i don't belive in all that stuff that they talk about in the game and in the russian version of red alert the soviets win. now about every american taking a gun in his hand and fighting that's far from the real thing. lots of americans are cowards and wont even fight for thier family. now the russians will fight for their contry till the last man. now about the nukes, well even if your nuke is faster, it can be blown out of the sky in a second compare to the russian missiles which are very hard to intersept, russia also has lazer to intersept missiles and the russian missiles have more than 16 MIRVs. ever herd of the SS-N-18 "satan" missile with a warhead of 25 megatons? well thats enough wipe USA of the face of the earth. also russian nuke submarines are much better and carry much more nuclear weapons. all modern have NBC protection. but your abrams is nothing compare to the T-90S. first of all your abrams has a gas turbine engine which gets stuck in sand or dust. Russian tanks have diesile engine which doesen't get stuck. your abrams cost's more than 5 million US dollars! Russian and other NATO tanks cost between 2-3 million US dollars. russian tanks have atomatic loading system since the 60s which the abrames doesen't have. Also russian tanks have the "Stora 1" and Arena protection systems, which USA only dreams to have. if russia whold attack USA than it would do it by surprise, and the americans won't know what hit them. I think that american and Russian jets are pretty much equal. Oh yeah, and remmember the vietnam war? you know who beat the USA? No it wasen't the north vietnamise, it was the USSR. you know who shot down so many USA planes in vietnam? Russian pilots did! and USSR gave north vietnam with weapons. In vietnam you americans droped 10,000 tons of bombs on 1 brige! and none of the bombs hit! some didn't even blow up. Any way uthink that the 2 countries should fight together against terror. |
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T-90S is one heck of a tank.... To see that tank in action you can buy War In The Gulf Dual In The Desert on DVD I dont know if the documentary is on WHS to? However that movie is fascinating with incredible footage togheter with expert analysis on the T-90. I would like to see sweden change their "obsolite" Leopard A5s or Strv 122 to T-90 in the future
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