India's Army... Part II - Page 10




 
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Boots
 
February 22nd, 2005  
EagleZtrike
 
 
Havn't seen you around until this started up with the India Vs China stuff. I'm not taking any side. That's pretty short minded of you to call me a Chinese guy disguised as American.
BTW: I find many of your guys from India origin come up with brilliant posts. Just some like lemontree appear to be a bit.....uneasy.

As in many of the other India vs China posts. Lemontree demoralizes other nations soldiers and the nation itself and I think it is him who is immature to be calling every person who tried to what he calls "debate" with him about military talk.
February 22nd, 2005  
Xion
 
Ok , just do a search for the author sexybeast a chinese, AA a chinese .. and look at their posts
you might also wanna take a look at the India v/s Pakistan thread and look at lemontree's comments.

I wouldn't say what i said a post above if you had posted this the first time, but i also looked at ur post under the general chit chat forum under the thread "understanding between china and india" and i felt vey uncomfortable when u said what u said... there are a lot more chinese bragging about their country in any thread about india ..so they would naturally get a response from the indians... i suggest if you are really interested in this do a search for all india v/s china topics and you'll know what i mean..i've been there thru all these threads
February 22nd, 2005  
EagleZtrike
 
 
I think all of us should take a break from the VS and the what does this army or whos army is better posts.
Oh yeah btw AA work on the spelling punctuation :P
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February 22nd, 2005  
Xion
 
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Originally Posted by AA
and again ur neglecting artillery infomation in mountain warefare, read a book and findout, because despite ur statement i still believe u havent had time to learn about it

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Originally Posted by Peter Pan
Lemontree does not have to read any book on warfare. He has had adequate time to learn and practice against live enemy at that!

He IS an Army officer.

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Originally Posted by AA
really, but still, im talking about mountain warefare here

he shoujld read sun tzu's art of war

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Originally Posted by Peter Pan
Didn't understand the connection.

All officers are posted in the mountains and we have a whole lot of mountains. Therefore, all are qualified for mountain warfare and have practical experience which is better than books.

Sun Tsu is also read.


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Originally Posted by AA
well ok, u guys knows alot about mountain warefare rite?? alrite, then i think u guys knows the impotance of machineguns mortars, grenades and mountain howtizers rite?

Who's the provoker for a potential flame war here now ? again the same China is great thing and show some respect to an army officer even though he's not from your country, he was perhaps posted on the front there when u were busy playing with your toy gun.

This is just an example , in all the other india v/s china threads EagleStrike you will find that the provokers for a flame war were some of these chinese i just mentioned.


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Originally Posted by lemontree

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Originally Posted by AA
AA wrote:

anyways, i have to comment on lemontree's comment about chinese not caring about human lives or other stuff like that
I thought that you were being sarcastic. i apologise for misunderstanding.


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Originally Posted by AA
AA wrote:
if you understand the battles during 1962, then ull know what im talking about/.
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Originally Posted by lemontree

Yes I do know and have studied it well.
The causes of the war was diplomatic failure on both side.
Since you already have an opinion there not much I can say. But did it ever occur to you that what you know could help me or somone like me understand this better, because so much of the Indian and PLA reocrds are classified.
Only the regimental unit records have some facts, from where mil historians have written books. Contrary to what you think, the books give all the short comings on the Indian side and don't hide any facts. These are not propaganda books, and so they are found mainly in military liberaries.
So if you feel you are right, then I'm no one to argue. To each his own.
There was an apology even when it wasn't compulsory to apologise anyone , on the other hand , no chinese ever apologised for anything they talked against india, this shows EagleStrike doesn't read posts properly or is being partial.
February 22nd, 2005  
lemontree
 
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Originally Posted by AA
there is no such comments or statements that says the insas rifle is superior than the qbz 95.
It was you who made those comments about superiority of rifles and equipment. Not me.
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Originally Posted by AA
the insas rifle looks more like an ak74, though less reliable and less accurate

why the 20round mag?? save ammo?
The INSAS was developed, based on the AK-74/Galil, FN FNC and the G3. It combines the best of these rifles.
It is as reliable as the L1A1 and the AK, and accuracy compares with L1A1, whereas the accuracy of the AK series does not compare with the L1A1 due to a design flaw.
- All AK rifles are zeroed in the factory, whereas the L1A1 and INSAS can be zeroed by each individual soldier depending on his shooting style.
- The sight radius of the AK is smaller than INSAS which makes it less accurate compared to the later. The QBZ-95 also has a small sight radius hence, it is more accurate with a optical scope and not with open sights.
BTW, the INSAS has both 20 and 30 round mags.
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lol, dont compare j-8s with mig 21s, because they are NOT even in the same generation, which is a term used to define the genre of planes

fc-1 jf-17 is does not even look like the mig-23, its not even swing-wing
The J-8II is an enlarged Mig-21, the airframe is the same design but with 2 engines.
The website says that the FC-1/JF-17 is based on a rejected Mig-23 design. Wheather that design it was swing wing or not, has not been mentioned.[/quote]
February 22nd, 2005  
lemontree
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleStrike
Havn't seen you around until this started up with the India Vs China stuff. I'm not taking any side. That's pretty short minded of you to call me a Chinese guy disguised as American.
BTW: I find many of your guys from India origin come up with brilliant posts. Just some like lemontree appear to be a bit.....uneasy.

As in many of the other India vs China posts. Lemontree demoralizes other nations soldiers and the nation itself and I think it is him who is immature to be calling every person who tried to what he calls "debate" with him about military talk.
It is unfortunate that you find my posts uneasy. It would help, if you gave a reference of which post was "bad" or inflamatory.
I have never demoralised anyone. I have written facts that have occured, that others choose to deny.
Besides, I have never even posted any hate filled reply to any of your posts. On the contary I seconded your opinion about the FN SCAR resembling the SIG rifle.
It was you who sent a hate filled private message. Was that mature?