Indian, US aircraft carriers go head-to-head in war games

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Source:Rediff News

The North Arabian Sea would become the stage of a formidable build-up of naval armada, including 100,000-tonne displacement United States carrier Nimitz, as Indian and American flotilla cross swords in a nine-day joint manoeuvre from September 25.

The eighth series of exercises, billed the most advanced so far, would not only see the pride of the US seventh fleet, Nimitz, in action, but also bring the carrier-based E2C Hawkeye Air Early Warning aircraft, the Los Angeles class submarines and the F-18/A hornet to Indian shores.

Against such formidable forces, the Indian Navy would pit its lone carrier, INS Viraat, carrier-based Sea Harriers, indigenously-built Delhi Class destroyer INS Mysore, Godavari class missile frigate and Shishukumar class submarines.

"The two flotilla would engage in simulated air strikes, air defence, shepherding battle ships as well as surface-to- air and sub-sea tactical operations," Rear Admiral DK Joshi, the assistant chief of Naval Staff said. "The thrust of the Malabar-05 exercise this year would also be on counter-terrorism operations at sea, anti-sea piracy and to streamline interoperability."



Joshi said during the exercises, in which Indian Navy's ageing vertical take-off Sea Harriers jets would take on the far superior F-18 hornets, India would also field its Russian acquired TU-142m long-range maritime patrol aircraft as well as Seaking helicopters in both their roles - as anti-submarines and ferrying special marine forces.

The Rear Admiral said during exercises, there would not be any 'cross-landings' or 'cross personnel exchanges', as had been witnessed during Indo-US fighter-to-fighter exercises recently. "The two navies have evolved standard operating procedures, which are regularly tested and updated during these bilateral exercises", Joshi said.

He said these exercises would be followed up by joint Indo-US Naval Special Forces exercises in Guam in the Pacific in January 2006. During the exercises, the P3C Orions, US Navy's long- range maritime reconiassance aircraft would be operating from the Indian Navy's sole land base at Dabolim in Goa.

The US recently offered to the Indian Navy, four Orions from early next year as a prelude to a major government-to- government sale.


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Be interested in the results of this... if the Indians can sink our carrier grats to them. But i just dont see it happening.
 
Rabs said:
if the Indians can sink our carrier grats to them.

How would they sink our carrier? Isn't it just wargames? Isn't wargames just fake war pretty much? If I missed something, tell me, cause I don't completely understand how they would sink our carrier in wargames.
 
BaZoOkAzNgReNaDeZ said:
Rabs said:
if the Indians can sink our carrier grats to them.

How would they sink our carrier? Isn't it just wargames? Isn't wargames just fake war pretty much? If I missed something, tell me, cause I don't completely understand how they would sink our carrier in wargames.

they don't actually sink them they are just counted out of the game if they get "hit" a certain number of times.
 
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BaZoOkAzNgReNaDeZ said:
How would they sink our carrier? Isn't it just wargames? Isn't wargames just fake war pretty much? If I missed something, tell me, cause I don't completely understand how they would sink our carrier in wargames.

:shock: uhmm That's the beauty of war games ......... like in Cope India , Indian Fighters Destroyed more than 80 % of the US Fighter in 9 out of 12 Excersises ........... they didn't Shoot Down USAF F-15 from the Sky :lol: ....... Generally Before the war games start Rules of Engagment are fixed ........ like if for say this much Time if you Lock a enemy fighter it would be considered Lost and so on .........

I don't think enyone would try and sink each other Aircraft Carriers it would be a test of the Fighter Aircraft both Aircraft Carry......... and the Escort Ships .... how well they Protect the Carrier .


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Found a Good Picture os the Two carriers Together Off Malabar... Aircraft carrier USS Nimitz with INS Viraat and INS Mysore during a joint exercise in the North Arabian Sea on the first day of the Indo-US Malabar-05

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Starting From the Left USS Nimitz then INS Viraat and INS Mysore .



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I see it starting from the right....or from up downwards...but i guess thats just the way i see it huh?
 
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StarS said:
I see it starting from the right....or from up downwards...but i guess thats just the way i see it huh?

Up :sorry:


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Ships assigned to the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group and the Indian aircraft carrier Viraat (R 22) underway in formation as part of exercise Malabar 2005. The exercise is designed to increase interoperability between the two navies while enhancing the cooperative security relationship between India and the United States. The at-sea exercise includes maritime interdiction, surface events, sub-surface, air events and personnel exchanges. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 3rd Class Shannon E. Renfroe (RELEASED)


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Seems like the US has a pretty good relationsip with India, other than the outsourcing issue, we seem to think along the same lines on a lot of issues. Also, is it just me or do India and America do a lot of joint exercises? Something to keep China on their toes maybe?
 
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clownfish said:
damn but is the nimitz big?!! the indian carrier seems small compared to it..

Nimitz are the Biggest beasts around ......... The Nimitz Class aircraft carriers are the largest warships ever built ........... the carrier has a displacement of 1,00,000 tons

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Source:Rediff News

More than expected achieved during Indo-US naval exercises: Smith

Asserting that "more than expected" had been achieved during joint Indo-US naval exercises, US Commodore of Defence Staff Mike Smith said aboard INS Mysore on Thursday that he favoured more advanced exercises in next phase.

At the end of the first phase of the eighth Indo-US joint naval exercise 'Malabar-05,' Smith said he would recommend doing away with basic exercises and moving to more advanced exercises.

"With Malabar-05 exercise, we have accomplished more than what we expected," he told a joint press conference with Commanding Officer of Indian aircraft carrier 'INS Viraat' Captain S P S Cheema.

With the two navies taking up advanced exercises, including war-at-sea on Friday, Smith said he was "extremely impressed by joint exercise so far which has brought to the forefront many similarities between two navies and shown that both together can compliment each other in achieving goals (of security), including regional security in this part of the world," he said.



'Malabar-05' witnessed participation of aircraft carriers from both sides for the first time. The 'USS Nimitz', an aircraft carrier which can hold over 100 aircraft in its belly, participated in the first phase.

Apart from 'USS Nimitz', US nuclear submarine 'USS Santa Fe' was also a highlight of the exercise, with Indian participation coming in the form of 'INS Shankul'.

Over 12,000 personnel from both sides are participating in the exercises, primarily aimed at developing inter-operability confidence to tackle piracy, terrorism and relief and rescue issues in the region and elsewhere. The exercises also witnessed exchange of officers and sailors by both navies on vessels and operating aircraft and helicopters.

While helicopters from both sides conducted landings on each others vessels, the fighters did not land due to operational reasons, Indian naval authorities said.

Cheema said 'Malabar-05' exercise was 'different' since it witnessed participation of aircraft carrier from both sides.

"The moment you have aircraft carriers participating, the dimensions of the exercise change. With the carriers, you have fighters and the inter-operability challenges grow," Cheema said.

Participation of aircraft carriers on both sides is indicative of both navies endeavouring in high-level of inter-operability, he said, adding that in the first phase, Indian 'Sea Harrier' and American 'F-18s' got engaged in air combat, controlled by American 'E2C Hawkeye' aircraft and 'INS Viraat.'

According to Indian Naval officials, the exercise provided large canvas on which both navies operated and the entire experience was professionally stimulating and gratifying.

Captain Cheema informed that the second phase will have submarine to submarine exercises and a 24-hour war-at-sea aimed at exercising mission skills of the two navies in a complex scenario.


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Indian navy aircraft carrier INS Viraat sails during the India-US joint naval exercise in the Arabian Sea, India, Thursday, Sept. 29, 2005. Nearly 12,500 Navy personnel from India and the United States have begun joint exercises this week focusing on anti-terrorism operations, search and rescue missions. (AP Photo/Manish Swarup)


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Indian Navy's Sea Harrier takes off from the aircraft carrier INS Viraat during the India-US joint naval exercise in the Arabian Sea, India, Thursday, Sept. 29, 2005. Nearly 12,500 Navy personnel from India and the United States have begun joint exercises this week focusing on anti-terrorism operations, search and rescue missions. (AP Photo/Manish Swarup)

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Two Indian navy Sea King helicopters fly over US navy warship USS Higgins during the India-US joint naval exercise in the Arabian Sea, India, Thursday, Sept. 29, 2005. Nearly 12,500 Navy personnel from India and the United States have begun joint exercises this week focusing on anti-terrorism operations, search and rescue missions. (AP Photo/Manish Swarup)


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U.S. Navy missile-guided ship USS Chafee's Commanding Officer John M. Clausen looks out from his ship during the India-U.S. joint naval exercise in the Arabian Sea, India, Thursday, Sept. 29, 2005. Nearly 12,500 Navy personnel from India and the United States have begun joint exercises this week focusing on anti-terrorism operations, search and rescue missions. (AP Photo/Manish Swarup)

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Indian Naval tankers 'INS Aditya' 'USS Chafee' and 'INS Gomti' move in formation on the high seas during the second phase of the ongoing joint Indo-US naval excercise off the Goa coast,29 September 2005. The United States and the Indian Navy are conducting their biggest ever joint naval excercise 'Malabar05' some 255 nautical miles in the Arabian Sea off the western Indian coast. The exercise which involves the aircraft carriers 'USS Nimitz' and 'INS Viraat' as well as several frigates and submarines which started 25 September will continue until 04 October. AFP PHOTO/Sebastian D'SOUZA (Photo credit should read SEBASTIAN D'SOUZA/AFP/Getty Images)

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An Indian Sea Harrier aircraft takes-off from the deck of aircraft carrier 'INS Viraat' during the second phase of the ongoing joint Indo-US naval excercise off the Goa coast,29 September 2005.

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Indian aircraft carrier 'INS Viraat' (L) and US destroyer 'USS Higgins' (R) manoeuvre during the second phase of the ongoing joint Indo-US naval excercise off the Goa coast,29 September 2005.


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(Sept. 27, 2005) - Aviation Boatswain’s Mate Airman Antonio Peterson looks-on as an F/A-18E Super Hornet, assigned to the “Tophatters” of Strike Fighter Squadron Fourteen (VFA-14), performs a carrier arrested landing on the flight deck aboard the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN 68). Nimitz is currently participating in the exercise Malabar 2005 off the coast of India. The exercise is designed to increase interoperability between the two navies while enhancing the cooperative security relationship between India and the United States. The at-sea exercise includes maritime interdiction, surface events, sub-surface, air events and personnel exchanges. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 3rd Class Elisabeth Ann Saccotelli (RELEASED)

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(Sept. 27, 2005) - An F/A-18F Super Hornet, assigned to the “Black Aces” of Strike Fighter Squadron Four One (VFA-41), makes an arrested landing on the flight deck aboard the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN 68). Nimitz is currently participating in the exercise Malabar 2005 off the coast of India. The exercise is designed to increase interoperability between the two navies while enhancing the cooperative security relationship between India and the United States. The at-sea exercise includes maritime interdiction, surface events, sub-surface, air events and personnel exchanges. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 3rd Class Elisabeth Ann Saccotelli (RELEASED)


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Just out of curiousity, did India build the Viraat themselves or did they buy it from another nation? I find the latter to be less likely because India is a member of that one organization (sorry, can't remember the name) or movement that encourages it's members/followers to help themselves without relying on fireign aid, first I had heard about it was during the Tsunami. Also, does India have any Attack Helicopter Carriers? I know quite a few Navies use those as well as the USMC.
 
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Damien435 said:
Just out of curiousity, did India build the Viraat themselves or did they buy it from another nation?

It's Ex-HMS Hermes the British Aircraft Carrer .......... was Transferred from the UK in 1986 .......... Two Aircraft Carrers were transferred from UK other one was INS Vikrant (HMS Majestic class) light fleet aircraft carrier ........... the INS Vikrant was retired and is currently a museum .

Apart from those India is Currently building one Aircraft Carrer at the kochi Shipyard and is Buying one from Russia the INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) .

I find the latter to be less likely because India is a member of that one organization (sorry, can't remember the name) or movement that encourages it's members/followers to help themselves without relying on fireign aid,
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The Cult is Known as Non-Alied Movement ......... India Is the Co-Founder of that Movement ...... :mrgreen:

It dosen't say that you can't take Foreign Aid Actually it's a relic form the Cold war era when every newly Independent country had to choose Sides It's either The Soviets or the USA ............ non- Aligned Movement was a try to form a third Block ....... it said to maintain distance form both blocks .

first I had heard about it was during the Tsunami.

Well the reason India refuced to accept aid was not Due to that reason ........ it was because we felt that we had enough resource to handle the Tsunami ......... so the Aid should get to those who were really in need of it .


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