I'm fed up with the UN - Page 5




 
--
Boots
 
September 26th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Quote:
Hmmm, it sends me to the site when I click it..... I'll just post it:
You must already have a membership there then and a cookie on your computer with your data.
September 26th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Nah I don't, besides even if I did, I wouldn't post information that's exclusive to those that have paid. That's illegal!
September 26th, 2004  
Lupos
 
 
After all this there are still Americans who claim that Saddham didn't finance terror, attempt to at least buy WMD's, or pose the least bit of a threat to the world. I love my country, but some of the people in it make me sick.
--
Boots
September 26th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Anyone making the statement, "Sadam Hussein never had WMD." doesn't know what WMD is then. Nerve gas is one, and 100,000+ dead Kurds and dead Iranians would beg to differ with the opinion that "he never had them"
September 26th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
That doesn't bother me so much, it's just that international folk (like civlians) get mad at our invasion. It has liberated Iraq, either way you look at it. We at least have accomplished that much.
September 26th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Well, the United States needs to be very careful when taking upon itself the role of "World Policeman" because toppling governments tends to make a lot of people nervous. We specifically didn't do it in the first Gulf War for that very reason. If the UN had an effective system to actually enforce ANYTHING then the USA playing world policeman wouldn't even be needed at all.
September 26th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
We will continue to be world policemen for awhile yet. The great war of terror has just begun. Or many in the international community might put it "OMG TEH W@R 4 O1L"
September 26th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Wouldn't it be nice if the UN wasn't completlely powerless? If they weren't, they could play policeman and then the world could hate THEM for it.
September 26th, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 

Topic: Re: UN


Quote:
Originally Posted by Lupos
What the are you talking about, the majority feeling here is to get rid of the security council not give even more power to it!
The reality is we cannot get rid of it. The priciples of the UN are sound but no one will follow them. I found this article from the state department that makes sense to me.

Department of State vision statement

Three principles guide our engagement at the UN.

Principle #1: We want the United Nations to live up to the vision of its founders. America's leadership can mobilize like-minded nations and multilateral institutions to stand up for common principles. We have seen this outcome, for example, in the war against terrorism, efforts to protect refugees and provide humanitarian aid, and the consensus that world leaders reached in Monterrey, Mexico, on the most effective ways to finance development.

Americans want us to make sure the UN and its many agencies hold fast to founding principles. This is true whether the objective is to disarm Iraq, promote peace in the region, or ensure that the elected members of the Commission on Human Rights (CHR) respect, protect, and promote human rights. The credibility of the CHR rightfully came under attack after Libya was elected chair in 2003. We had opposed that nomination; we are now working within the Commission to make sure its actions reflect its mandate and uphold the principles elaborated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other international agreements. A revitalized CHR will find that it has the support of Americans and others around the world.

There be much more on the web site
http://www.state.gov/p/io/c9703.htm
September 27th, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
Yeah, that is reason US support Japan to become one of the permanent members in UN security council. Instead, US is againt German's same proposal

Very simple, support a puppy (Japan is protected by US officially), then US will have two votes instead of one----Can you image japan will say any "no" to US regarding important security issue?. In addition, Japan need to pay any cost for any war started by US.....because: "come'on, you are one of the security council members now!"

Damn, what a smart action!