I'm fed up with the UN - Page 16




 
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Boots
 
December 14th, 2004  
dougal
 
 
Central America

ONUCA (UN OBSERVER GROUP IN CENTRAL AMERICA) Irelands commitment to this mission was 57 officers. It began on 03 Dec 89 as a result of the 'Esquipulas II' Agreement and lasted until 27 Jan 92. Irish Observers served in Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, and Costa Rica. Their mission was to verify the termination of aid to irregular forces and insurrection movements and the non-use of territory of one state for attacks on another. Their headquarters was established in Tegucigalpa, Honduras and 33 verification centres spread throughout the region.

ONUSAL (UN OBSERVER MISSION IN EL SALVADOR) On the day that ONUCA was terminated, Observers from that Mission converged on El Salvador to staff the new ONUSAL Mission. ONUSAL's establishment followed the signing of a Peace Accord between the El Salvadoran Government and the FMLN rebels, who had been fighting since 1979.

The key aspects of the accord were a 50 per cent reduction of the El Salvadoran Armed Forces ; the legalising of FMLN as a legitimate political party and the destruction of its weaponry; the establishment of a new judicial system; and the setting up of a new police force to include a percentage of FMLN supporters. Under ONUSAL's supervision, the terms of the Accord were substantially achieved. Irish Observers served with the UN Observer Mission in El Salvador from 21 Jan 92 to 31 May 94. Our commitment to this mission was six Officers.

IHSG (IRISH HONDURAN SUPPORT GROUP) As part of the Irish Government's response to the post Hurricane Mitch relief effort, an Army reconnaissance party was dispatched to Honduras on 01 November 1998.

As a consequence the Irish Honduran Support Group (IHSG) was formed and in January of 1999, the group traveled to Honduras and successfully carried out it's task of building a combination Health Centre - Kindergarten and the first two classrooms of an elementary school in the area of Santa Rosa de Aguan.

Total strength was 27 all ranks which consisted of Engineer, Army Medical Corps personnel a Chaplain and an administrative staff.
December 14th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
An observer mission okay the point is?
December 14th, 2004  
dougal
 
 
Central America.

Someone said they dont travell that far.
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Boots
December 14th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
Never said they didn't travel that far. What was said is that they take no action.
December 15th, 2004  
Italian Guy
 
 
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And most people dont realise that here or reconise the lifes given by UN soldiers.
Agreed. Perhaps for people who consider this a joke is insulting the multi-national effort to provide order within an unstable, warring countries.
What Countries? They did not step in in Rwanda, The Sudan and now will probably ignore the Congo issue. They purposley did not mention Genocide concerning Rwanda because by charter they would have been bound to act.

In Africa ECOMIL is much more effective at Peacekeeping than UN multi-nationals. Problem is they are too closely tied to the UN and end up relying on them for support.
So much right. I attended a conference (part of a seminarium) yesterday and this professor from Denver University said exactly the same things 03USMC is now saying here: about the term genocide not used, about Rwanda. The UN was in Rwanda in the first place, but they left when the sit worsened. I don't think it's too unfair to say they're overrated as the moral guide of the world.
December 15th, 2004  
dougal
 
 
The President, Mrs McAleese, has strongly endorsed the UN Secretary-General, Mr Kofi Annan, and has said the world's problems are best solved by nations working together within the UN framework.

Her comments, made in an address to Irish troops in the Liberian capital, Monrovia, come at a time when Britain and the US continue to face isolation from much of the international community because of their decision to invade Iraq without UN sanction. Mr Annan is currently the victim of a US-led campaign to drive him from office amid allegations of corruption involving the organisation's oil-for-food programme in Iraq.

However, Mrs McAleese took the opportunity of her pre-Christmas address to the Irish troops at Camp Clara to make clear her support for Mr Annan.

"Under the steady guidance of Secretary-General Annan, the UN is itself undergoing a period of critical self-examination destined to make it even stronger, even more effective in its work of care for the world.

"Ireland has actively supported this process for we believe the world's problems are best solved by a thoroughly effective and efficient United Nations backed by the robust support of the nations of the world," she said.

She distributed cards and presents to the Irish soldiers from their families back home. The 430 Irish personnel in Liberia were conducting themselves with "exceptional respect and humanity" and, like no other military deployed in the country, had volunteered to work at a local hospice for HIV/AIDS sufferers.

Mrs McAleese was speaking at the conclusion of a two-day trip to west Africa, which took in Liberia and Senegal.

Yesterday she visited a number of sites in Monrovia amid tight security following the death of 16 people during rioting in the city in October.Dozens of armed Irish troops in military vehicles, backed by soldiers in armoured personnel carriers, escorted the President and Dr Martin McAleese around the city.
December 18th, 2004  
devilwasp
 
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Originally Posted by Italian Guy

So much right. I attended a conference (part of a seminarium) yesterday and this professor from Denver University said exactly the same things 03USMC is now saying here: about the term genocide not used, about Rwanda. The UN was in Rwanda in the first place, but they left when the sit worsened. I don't think it's too unfair to say they're overrated as the moral guide of the world.
Countries in the UN wont allow thier troops to be hurt because they are selfish and dont value treaties. If countries got thier troops to commit more strongly then it would be effective.
December 18th, 2004  
dougal
 
 
Aha

October 17th, 2005  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
I am not mad at Chavez and Mugabe calling Bush and Blair like Germany's Adolf Hitler and Italy's Benito Mussolini, its the cheers from the UN delegates that really me off.

Mugabe, Chavez slam U.S. at U.N. event

ROME, Italy (AP) -- The leaders of Zimbabwe and Venezuela on Monday denounced President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair as "unholy men," and blamed the United States and other developed countries for world hunger, pollution and war.

President Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez turned their speeches at the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization into tirades, with the African leader describing Blair and Bush as "two unholy men of our millennium."

Chavez accused what he called "the North American empire" of threatening "all life on the planet," while Mugabe compared Bush and Blair, for their alliance in the war in Iraq, to Germany's Adolf Hitler and Italy's Benito Mussolini, who were World War II allies.

U.S. representatives at the U.N. organization's gathering in Rome said Mugabe and Chavez made "a mockery" of the occasion with their scathing remarks.

The gathering, a day after the United Nations marked World Food Day, commemorated the organization's 60th anniversary.

The verbal attacks by Chavez and Mugabe drew cheers and applause from many of the delegates. The organization has 188 members...

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October 17th, 2005  
Padre
 
 
I know for a fact that some agencies of the U.N. do great humanitarian work, that wouldn't happen or would not happen as fast, without the U.N. However that's the workers/volunteers on the ground. I am far from impressed with the UN executives who seem to be or have become fat cats on the ****-tail circuit over-seeing a useless costly bureaucracy.