Illinois Schools Canceling Christmas and Halloween to Avoid Offending Muslims

C/1Lt Henderson said:
It's America though. Would this have happened in England? Or would England have told them to shove off?
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I think that in all civilised western countries the Politicians are so afraid of being seen as politically incorrect that they are the same. Gutless.

Political correctness strikes again.
 
C/1Lt Henderson said:
It's America though. Would this have happened in England? Or would England have told them to shove off?
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No - we are completely entangled in it, to the extent that our culture is being undermined. Sharia law is being introduced in some areas and the wearing of, for example, Christian crosses, even very small ones, is being challenged and banned. Shopping supermarkets are backing Muslims who refuse to sell alcohol and sexually connected items. (Sainsburys is one). Muslim doctors are refusing to treat patients with alcohol orientated or sexually related problems. (HIV for example). This is what I have tried to warn USA to beware of. Don't pay the Dane-Geld, learn to say No, don't let your culture be watered down, and expect those coming to your country to accept your culture standards. Tell those who do not wish to to stay away.

This is common-sense, is it not? I love to see those immigrants here who happily join us in our trials and tribulations, the rough and the smooth, and are proud to join us. I was speaking to an elderly newspaper shop keeper this morning who was precisely that, having a smiling moan about the cost of living, the problem of not being able to retire, the long hours etc., but a happy man. Just like the rest of us. It was a great pleasure to meet him. Muslim I guess, or maybe Hindu, who knows. But he'll do for me, he's more than welcome as far as I am concerned, as British as me, if he wants to be so.

'Hell' For Worker Who Hung Jesus Image

By Michelle May
Sky correspondent
Updated: 09:41, Thursday October 11, 2007
A Roman Catholic airport worker was suspended from work after hanging an image of Jesus on a staffroom wall, it has emerged.

Gareth Langmead, who works as a car park supervisor at Manchester Aiport, was escorted off the premises following a complaint from a Muslim colleague.
UNISON official Glynn Platt told Sky News: "It was three or four days of hell for him. I don't see what is necessarily inappropriate about a picture of Jesus.
"It was put up in a communal mess room, I can't see how it could necessarily have caused offence."
He added: "The appropriate thing to have done would have been to say 'We've received a complaint, would you mind taking down this picture'."

A statement from Manchester Airport confirmed an employee had returned to work with a clean record presumably a reference a reference to Mr LangIt said: "Given the nature of this incident, we have agreed with our airport Chaplain that he and his team will work with the employees involved to foster a greater level of understanding about each other's beliefs and how this applies in the workplace."
Mr Langmead's suspension comes just weeks after a Hindu worker at Heathrow Airport lost her job for wearing a nose stud as part of her religion.
Amrit Lalji was reinstated to her post in customer relations following an appeal.
Last year a Christian check-in worker for British Airways was suspended for four months for wearing a cross around her neck.
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Did anybody say CRUSADE? Where do I sign up?
All kidding aside - I am not a big fan of catering to the Muslim belief in this country. If they don't like our customs - then pack your bags and head back to your sand box!
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Well, of course, you would also be welcome to do the same, if you so wished. No-one is forcing people to be here. Is that not so?

Are you suggesting that atheists do not preach at work? Are you suggesting that atheists do not preach? Are you suggesting that others are never confronted by atheist images ?

You don't have to be phased - just repeat to yourself - 'Thank God I'm an atheist'. You'll feel better, no need to get pissy at all.
 
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As a type of belief, you could argue that Atheism is also a "religion." Hell, let's just finish it off for good and ban people!
 
Del Boy said:
Well, of course, you would also be welcome to do the same, if you so wished. No-one is forcing people to be here. Is that not so?

Are you suggesting that atheists do not preach at work? Are you suggesting that atheists do not preach? Are you suggesting that others are never confronted by atheist images ?

You don't have to be phased - just repeat to yourself - 'Thank God I'm an atheist'. You'll feel better, no need to get pissy at all.
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im just saying that faith is a personal thing, and that if i found that someone was hanging up religious icons or whatever in a shared break area, i think it would put my back up too.


but as it says in the OP, a quiet word would've done the job has that turfing him out on his ear
 
I wouldn't care if there were tons of religious icons all over my workplace. It's not like they're going to take over my mind somehow and force me to believe in the religion.

But if someone told me I'm not allowed to wear a cross, I'd be pretty pissed. And I'm not even Christian.
 
Infern0 said:
im just saying that faith is a personal thing, and that if i found that someone was hanging up religious icons or whatever in a shared break area, i think it would put my back up too.


Yeah. But atheism is a personal choice, too, and if you live in a country of say, Christian culture, you should expect to see and accept such symbols, without seeking to censor them for your own pleasure.

When I am in Islamic culture countries, I expect to accept their environmental preferences, and when I was in Eastern Europe during the cold war, I expected and accepted their atheistic symbols without rancour. I was presented with Warsaw tributes by their representatives, but if i wanted to have a discussion like this, I would have to walk down the middle of the road with a friend, in order to talk safely.

Atheism is practically a religion of its own, and very over-bearing it seems to be, too.

Each to his own.

I am speaking here only as a man, putting other agendas to one side.
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Public schools have to cater to all?
I think there comes a point when this country is so protective of the minority we permit the a tyranny by the minority to exist. The Founding Fathers were ofcourse attempting to safeguard us from the opposite, and Hamilton in the Federalist papers had written about this very outcome. The minority would use the courts to impose their view on the majority. Some would call this legislating from the bench... I am getting a bit off topic - but to bring this back around, the only correction to the court is through the legislative process which we saw when the courts attempted to legalize gay marriage. The state legislatures stepped forward - I think that is what must happen now.
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This is not universal tolerance.
This is universal non tolerance.
Atheism is very much a religious belief as well. And the fact that this idea can exist is also a cultural one. People may not realize this but people can grow up in a world where the idea of not believing in one particular religion or belief would be unthinkable. It would be like not believing in gravity.
Muslims spreading their non tolerance really grinds my gears.
 
I go with that. I want to be left in peace with my choices and i want to leave others to theirs. And i will share the planet with them, as long as they stay off my back and don't try to kill me. I don't go through life knocking and raging against Atheists, agnostics, Christians, Jews , or any other groups, they are entitled to their thing. At the moment I have a problem with militant Islam, which I will drop as soon as they fall back into line. All Moslems who wish to allow me to live in peace in my own country, and others in peace in their countries, are fine by me.
 
Religion & atheism only have one commonality - they are both a belief system.
Having said that, history has shown that when our basic beliefs are infringed upon, the people as a whole (not as a democrat or republican) tend to respond through the legislature.
 
pshhhh

Public schools are in place to provide a service not to play mediator. The school should be able to provide this service by many means. Already kids have to sing many different religious songs and in different languages because GOD forbid we would want to offend anyone who has a different belief or who doesnt feel they are equal in school because they arent singing in there native language IN THE USA. The USA should make english the national language and keep that TRADITION in place along with christmas. I dont see any other country having these problems because there they could give a *%&$ if you fell uncomfortable. We need to man up and defend what defines us before someone else comes along and defines it for us.
 
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