ASTRALdragon
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PJ24 said:That's all well and good, except just "immigrants" aren't taking those jobs, illegal immigrants are. They're driving wages lower so much that we lose an annual $230 billion in wages.
How about those 10 million American men alone in the US that don't have a higher education, is that such a small number that it's really insignificant?
Then of course we have the billions of dollars we're paying out every year to Medicaid and food assistance programs for them.
That argument has been used a lot, but it's mostly BS. They cost us a lot more money than they save us. They are a drain of the economy, and they hurt not only those 10 million + Americans, they hurt EVERYONE.
That's why I said that I am for immigrant labor but not illegal immigrant labor. There is a huge difference. I am totally against people entering the US illegally, but there is nothing wrong with coming to the US legally and getting a low wage job that pays better then the job the immigrant held in their native country. I know that illegal immigrants kills the economy (I live in CA, I think we have the most illegal immigrants here, plus my girlfriend tells me all about how the illegal Hispanic kids in her classroom [she's an elementary teacher] are killing the test score averages and the schools lose funding). As for immigrant labor taking away jobs from low educated Americans, I'm actually for that. This will just drive Americans to obtain a higher level of education. It's all about survival of the fittest. As I have stated in my post in a different thread about American society; let the low laborers handle the manufacturing and industry jobs, and have the majority of Americans handle the high-levelled manufacturing and industrious jobs and service-related jobs. Most of the world is an industrious society. The US has moved beyond that and entered a postindustrious (information) society. America is based on the society of information and services (i.e. they do not waste their time making Nikes and pans anymore, although the US should still retain the manufacturing jobs that relate to military and civilian technology they hold as "secret").