Hummvee or Land Rover? - Page 3




View Poll Results :Hummer or Land Rover
Hummer 15 75.00%
Land Rover 5 25.00%
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

 
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November 2nd, 2004  
Dele
 
Humvees are great. Truly American too they are great versatile machines with heavy armor
November 2nd, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
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Humvees are great. Truly American too they are great versatile machines with heavy armor
"Heavy armor"? What are you talking about. The Hummer isent heavily armored and the same goes for the Landrover. They are not meant to be armored.
November 2nd, 2004  
The thin Red Line
 
Sorry to says as British in this comp it has to be the hummer, but as the uk army is replacing a large number of land rovers with a new vehicle
called Future Command and Liaison Vehicle (good name) the army agrees with you.

see http://www.army-technology.com/projects/future/
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November 2nd, 2004  
rileyrat
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACTaFOOL82
Anyone know about their powerplants?
I'm not sure about the Land Rover but I know the hummer uses a 6.2L/6.5L diesel depending on how recently the powerplant has been replaced. Has about 165hp either way but the 6.5L has a lil more torque.

Also to clarify the problem most people have with the hummer is that they don't realize it has a traction control system in it. The problem is you have to activate it. If you have ever driven one you will notice that there is a small amount of play in the brake petal. If you depress it until you feel resistance but not until it starts braking the traction control kicks in. Also many people are way to confident in its abilities and leave it in its full time 4WD setting. If they would bother shifting the transfer into high lock or 4 low it would quickly make it through anything.
November 2nd, 2004  
Big_Z
 
 

Topic: Re: hummer dont take it of the road


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Originally Posted by batsman
During my time i Congo whit a MB Gelenderwagon i spent allot of time waiting for the hummers to get over the mudd rivers that the MB and the landrovers past whiteout any problems but to the hummers advantage i would have to say the drop down axels are god for passing logs or something but when passing mudd they stand still!
You must had seen a hummer rip off or something because there is noway a Gelenderwagon is going to out do a hummer in off-road.
November 2nd, 2004  
devilwasp
 
well acording to the british army they done tests on both, i believe the yanks offered us some, and the LR beat the hummer in everything except carrying stuff.
November 2nd, 2004  
Big_Z
 
 
Source?
November 2nd, 2004  
devilwasp
 
arghh . sorry i cant rem where i got it, take it as BS if you want but im 100% sure this is real.
i think it was in the paper somewhere. grr stupid brain!
November 3rd, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
The Pub isn't a reputable source. lol
November 3rd, 2004  
egoz
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rileyrat
Also many people are way to confident in its abilities and leave it in its full time 4WD setting. If they would bother shifting the transfer into high lock or 4 low it would quickly make it through anything.
Maybe I'm understanding you wrong, but the Hummer is fulltime 4x4. I understand there is a lower gear case transfer, but it stays in high when driving normally (on road). The only time you use the lower transfer case is when you are off road and getting in trouble. It changes the gear ratios in the transmission allowing for more torque. You can't turn the 4x4 off in a Hummer. There is the same system in the Land Rover and G-Wagon.
The traction control that it sounds like you're talking about it ABS. Depressing the brake pedal during a panic stop or heavy braking causes the pedal to "bounce." This is the computer releasing the brakes on certain tires to prevent lock up and skidding.
But if you're talking about standard TC then what that normally does is transfer power between the wheels providing more torque to the wheel with the greatest amount of traction. It also works to prevent wheel lock up my actuating the brake calipers preventing wheel lock up.

In vehicles like the Hummer and LR the TC is able to completely cut off power to a wheel that has no traction at all (if it was in the air or spinning in mud or on ice for example). This has a lot to do with the differential system setup also. In the Hummer I believe you have the option of locking all differentials or ones for the rear. The LR doesn't have that option because the TC computer will automatically decide what will be locked or not. In the D-series LR's they have a differential lock.

The power plant in a LR Disco Series II is a 4.6L V8 with 217hp@4750rpm and 300lb-ft torque@2600rpm. The Range Rover uses a 4.4L V8 with 282hp@5400rpm and 325lb-ft torque@3600rpm. But if we're talking about off road stuff then the Defender is probably the LR that you want to look at. That has a 3.5L V8 with 116hp@4000 rpm and 189lb-ft torque@2500 rpm. But the reason it's a better off road vehicle is the better approach, break over, and decent angles because of the short overhang. Remember there are different types of offroad driving. Most military vehicles will never need to do rock climbing type of stuff so the Hummer fits the bill well. It can have a very wide stance because you don't need a narrow vehicle most of the time.