Humanitarian Crisis




 
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Boots
 
September 4th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 

Topic: Humanitarian Crisis


There is a humanitarian crisis unfolding in Europe right now. I don't know if you guys residing elsewhere have noticed the crisis. There are about one million refugees trying to get to Europe right now and it is the worst refugee crisis since the Second World War. You might have seen the picture of the dead three year old boy washed up on a beach in Turkey. The crisis got a face instead of numbers now. I view it as a test to see if we have learned anything from the disasters in the past. but I doubt we have learned anything.

Maybe the world with its "The Responsibility to Protect" needs to really do something about Syria and ISIS and some sort of a Marshal Plan when it's done.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...ach-in-turkey/
September 4th, 2015  
dadsgirl
 
 
Yes, I saw the toddler also. Yesterday. I cried. What to do?
September 4th, 2015  
Sara
 
 
I saw this yesterday. There was a woman holding her baby.. they were lying on a train track and she was crying.. screaming, asking for help. They were trying to get help and I think being put back in trains. So sad.. I could barely watch.
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September 4th, 2015  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk
There is a humanitarian crisis unfolding in Europe right now. I don't know if you guys residing elsewhere have noticed the crisis. There are about one million refugees trying to get to Europe right now and it is the worst refugee crisis since the Second World War. You might have seen the picture of the dead three year old boy washed up on a beach in Turkey. The crisis got a face instead of numbers now. I view it as a test to see if we have learned anything from the disasters in the past. but I doubt we have learned anything.

Maybe the world with its "The Responsibility to Protect" needs to really do something about Syria and ISIS and some sort of a Marshal Plan when it's done.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...ach-in-turkey/
I guess someone has to be the bastard in the group so here goes...

Why exactly is this the worlds problem to clean up?
The only people that can sort out Syria are Syrians but rather than take an opportunity to deal with their problems they jump a boat and dump themselves on Europe's doorstep and then get violent when they discover Europe does not want 1 million of them.

Basically they have allowed their own nations to be destroyed now they think the rest of the world should take care of them.

Yes there are some tragic scenes unfolding and it is sad but this is a problem of their own making in my opinion.
September 4th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
I guess someone has to be the bastard in the group so here goes...

Why exactly is this the worlds problem to clean up?
The only people that can sort out Syria are Syrians but rather than take an opportunity to deal with their problems they jump a boat and dump themselves on Europe's doorstep and then get violent when they discover Europe does not want 1 million of them.

Basically they have allowed their own nations to be destroyed now they think the rest of the world should take care of them.

Yes there are some tragic scenes unfolding and it is sad but this is a problem of their own making in my opinion.

They cannot solve it by themselves and the UN Charters and the IL are pretty clear we cannot look away from the humanitarian crisis. There is a problem right now and view it as how you do will solve nothing.
September 4th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk
They cannot solve it by themselves and the UN Charters and the IL are pretty clear we cannot look away from the humanitarian crisis. There is a problem right now and view it as how you do will solve nothing.
Why is it we hear so little of the gigantic humanitarian issues that are ongoing in central Africa. Millions of people are fleeing the Congo, Uganda, the Central African Republic, the Sudan and others. These people are simple farmers, herders and fishermen that want nothing more than to be left alone. They are under attack by various murderous groups that cut off limbs, mass rape the women, enslave men and boys. The death toll is in the millions far more than that of the ME crisis or any other for that matter. Yet little is done to help these poor soles. These people don't even want to leave their land for the most part they are forced out and would gladly return if possible. It should make all countries with resources shameful for allowing this to continue unabated.
September 4th, 2015  
MontyB
 
 
Sorry I don't buy into that and I am tired of having to rescue sheep every day.
- 1984 Bandaid was formed to feed 3 million starving Africans 2014 Bandaid 30 performed to raise money to feed 30 million starving Africans.

- Currently we have ISIS roaming the Middle East, a group that on a good day can be called homicidal lunatics but a group that the largest estimates put at 80,000 yet the 1 million strong Iraqi army run away at the first sign of a Toyota dealership and millions of Syrians pack up and dump themselves on the rest of the world.

1) Africa is corrupt to the core for every bag of food or dollar we send them someone pockets 99% of it and the 1% that does make it through just seems to encourage them to produce 10 more mouths for us to feed.

2) Syria, if the Syrians put as much passion and effort into sorting out their country as they do in marching off to Germany to demand they be looked after ISIS would be a distant memory in a week.

I am all in favour of helping people who want to move forward but neither Africa nor Syria seems to want to move forward they just seem to want the rest of the world to give them everything.

I am interested to see that there are rumours that Russian forces are heading to Syria as this may finally be the only way this mess can be resolved...

https://larouchepac.com/20150903/rus...ck-assad-syria


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...civil-war.html
September 4th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
Sorry I don't buy into that and I am tired of having to rescue sheep every day.
- 1984 Bandaid was formed to feed 3 million starving Africans 2014 Bandaid 30 performed to raise money to feed 30 million starving Africans.

- Currently we have ISIS roaming the Middle East, a group that on a good day can be called homicidal lunatics but a group that the largest estimates put at 80,000 yet the 1 million strong Iraqi army run away at the first sign of a Toyota dealership and millions of Syrians pack up and dump themselves on the rest of the world.

1) Africa is corrupt to the core for every bag of food or dollar we send them someone pockets 99% of it and the 1% that does make it through just seems to encourage them to produce 10 more mouths for us to feed.

2) Syria, if the Syrians put as much passion and effort into sorting out their country as they do in marching off to Germany to demand they be looked after ISIS would be a distant memory in a week.

I am all in favour of helping people who want to move forward but neither Africa nor Syria seems to want to move forward they just seem to want the rest of the world to give them everything.

I am interested to see that there are rumours that Russian forces are heading to Syria as this may finally be the only way this mess can be resolved...

https://larouchepac.com/20150903/rus...ck-assad-syria


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...civil-war.html
That is good news, but the other Arabic countries can do much more. However, they are here now and we cannot wish them away. All refugees must be registered when they are seeking asylum according to international law, a law that emerged after the little oops we call WWII.
September 4th, 2015  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JOC
Why is it we hear so little of the gigantic humanitarian issues that are ongoing in central Africa. Millions of people are fleeing the Congo, Uganda, the Central African Republic, the Sudan and others. These people are simple farmers, herders and fishermen that want nothing more than to be left alone. They are under attack by various murderous groups that cut off limbs, mass rape the women, enslave men and boys. The death toll is in the millions far more than that of the ME crisis or any other for that matter. Yet little is done to help these poor soles. These people don't even want to leave their land for the most part they are forced out and would gladly return if possible. It should make all countries with resources shameful for allowing this to continue unabated.
We in Sweden get them too and there is no room for them, but we must treat them according to the IL
September 4th, 2015  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JOC
Why is it we hear so little of the gigantic humanitarian issues that are ongoing in central Africa. Millions of people are fleeing the Congo, Uganda, the Central African Republic, the Sudan and others. These people are simple farmers, herders and fishermen that want nothing more than to be left alone. They are under attack by various murderous groups that cut off limbs, mass rape the women, enslave men and boys. The death toll is in the millions far more than that of the ME crisis or any other for that matter. Yet little is done to help these poor soles. These people don't even want to leave their land for the most part they are forced out and would gladly return if possible. It should make all countries with resources shameful for allowing this to continue unabated.
Because no matter how much money we shovel into Africa it will never be enough.

What Africa wants is good leaders not more money.
 


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