Humanitarian Crisis - Page 9




 
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Boots
 
September 19th, 2015  
BritinAfrica
 
 
Monty I really don't know why you bother, trying to debate with him is like talking to a brick wall.
September 19th, 2015  
lljadw
 
It is very easy when one is living in NZ,to close one's eyes for reality :reality is that we in Europa are faced by the final phase of WWIII: the invasion of Europe.

Whole parts of the big European cities are unsafe for non Muslims : Dusseldorf,Berlin, Vienna,Antwerp,Brussels,Lyon,Paris,London,Birmingh am.

Last year a Belgian nuclear power station was sabotaged (damage :more than 100 million euro),the nationality of the culprits was of course suppressed.
September 19th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
Ah so it is your contention that any proof to the contrary of your claims is "Obama's lies"

If anyone has shown nothing and proved less on this issue it is you as you have failed at every turn to validate your claims instead reverting to out of context statements and hasbara talking points, while you can continue to ignore those pesky facts that do not fit into your limited line of information I assure you those reading this thread will not so if you plan to "win" then I would suggest addressing points with actual facts would help your cause.

I am also interested as to why your text style, puntuation and over all sentence structure changes from post to post, I mention this because it leads me to suspect that this is shell account used by different individuals.
Why should anyone believe one worth of the present Potus who said at the UNO : Future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of the Islamic region.

And who said after the Muslim attacks in Paris : it is the fault of the Europeans: they must treat their minorities better .

And,one of the accomplices of the present Potus (the Fed District Attorney for East Tennesse ) said that he would fine and lock up those who are critical of the Islam .
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September 19th, 2015  
lljadw
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB

I am also interested as to why your text style, puntuation and over all sentence structure changes from post to post, I mention this because it leads me to suspect that this is shell account used by different individuals.

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September 19th, 2015  
BritinAfrica
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
It is very easy when one is living in NZ,to close one's eyes for reality :reality is that we in Europa are faced by the final phase of WWIII: the invasion of Europe.

Whole parts of the big European cities are unsafe for non Muslims : Dusseldorf,Berlin, Vienna,Antwerp,Brussels,Lyon,Paris,London,Birmingh am.

Last year a Belgian nuclear power station was sabotaged (damage :more than 100 million euro),the nationality of the culprits was of course suppressed.
I know, I worked on London Transport and lived in London during the IRA bombing campaign. And as for the muslim attacks in Paris, the French should use live rounds and open fire on the buggers.
September 19th, 2015  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
It is very easy when one is living in NZ,to close one's eyes for reality :reality is that we in Europa are faced by the final phase of WWIII: the invasion of Europe.

Whole parts of the big European cities are unsafe for non Muslims : Dusseldorf,Berlin, Vienna,Antwerp,Brussels,Lyon,Paris,London,Birmingh am.

Last year a Belgian nuclear power station was sabotaged (damage :more than 100 million euro),the nationality of the culprits was of course suppressed.
Yeah I know I am constantly ashamed for living in a country that is not hated by anyone, that teaches its people to be open minded and not get involved squabbles over petty things such as religion or colour, that leads the world in human rights.

I honestly have no idea how I get up in the mornings really it is that painful.


Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
Why should anyone believe one worth of the present Potus who said at the UNO : Future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of the Islamic region.

And who said after the Muslim attacks in Paris : it is the fault of the Europeans: they must treat their minorities better .

And,one of the accomplices of the present Potus (the Fed District Attorney for East Tennesse ) said that he would fine and lock up those who are critical of the Islam .
Surely you can see why your worth in this argument is very limited because I notice that you have now posted that one line from his UN speech twice yet at no stage have you tried to put it in the context that it was delivered after all there were at least 200 other lines in the speech so lets see...

Was he right or wrong with this bit.
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And as we meet here, we again declare that the regime of Bashar al-Assad must come to an end so that the suffering of the Syrian people can stop and a new dawn can begin.
or this?

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It has been less than two years since a vendor in Tunisia set himself on fire to protest the oppressive corruption in his country, and sparked what became known as the Arab Spring. And since then, the world has been captivated by the transformation that’s taken place, and the United States has supported the forces of change.
We were inspired by the Tunisian protests that toppled a dictator, because we recognized our own beliefs in the aspiration of men and women who took to the streets.
how about this?
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We insisted on change in Egypt, because our support for democracy ultimately put us on the side of the people.
maybe this was complete BS?
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Americans have fought and died around the globe to protect the right of all people to express their views, even views that we profoundly disagree with. We do not do so because we support hateful speech, but because our founders understood that without such protections, the capacity of each individual to express their own views and practice their own faith may be threatened. We do so because in a diverse society, efforts to restrict speech can quickly become a tool to silence critics and oppress minorities.
And wasn't this straight out of Mein Kampf?



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It is time to marginalize those who -- even when not directly resorting to violence -- use hatred of America, or the West, or Israel, as the central organizing principle of politics. For that only gives cover, and sometimes makes an excuse, for those who do resort to violence.
I have no idea what he was smoking when he said this...
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Among Israelis and Palestinians, the future must not belong to those who turn their backs on a prospect of peace. Let us leave behind those who thrive on conflict, those who reject the right of Israel to exist. The road is hard, but the destination is clear -- a secure, Jewish state of Israel and an independent, prosperous Palestine. (Applause.) Understanding that such a peace must come through a just agreement between the parties, America will walk alongside all who are prepared to make that journey.
Clearly he is an extremist, hell peace, understanding and tolerance, the man is clearly an extremist and a danger to the world with those views.


But the item of major importance in all of that is not what he said as you can pass most of it off as the blatherings of a politician, the important thing in all of that is that it was taken from the very same speech that your one line was taken so if that one line was wrong then surely all of it is wrong.


As I have said you will fool the one eyed, inbred rednecks with your biased nonsense but then how many of them are reading this forum, by comparisson I will aim for those who prefer a whole story to just one extreme end.


You know the sad thing in all of this is that I really don't like Obama as a president. I think he has been wholely ineffectual and to bound up concensus yet I find myself on this forum defending the man from people who are so blind with intolerance and bigottary that they have lost the ability to target his faults in order to focus on everything he has done.


So once again for those who can read here is the speech...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...neral-assembly

As for the rest of you sitting there with your white tunics bravely hidden in a box under the bed save yourself a trip to the link as the speech has big words in it and no gun adverts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
I know, I worked on London Transport and lived in London during the IRA bombing campaign. And as for the muslim attacks in Paris, the French should use live rounds and open fire on the buggers.
I agree but if the French police then looked at the bodies of the Paris attackers they may not find many Muslims at all.
I would throughly recommend you look at bit further into the recent Paris attacks and perhaps add the term "JDL" to the search as well.
September 20th, 2015  
lljadw
 
It is obvious that you are "informed" by the anti-semite BBC and CNN,who are not telling you that "refugees" attacked Hungarian railway people, that in St Kanzian (Austria) 20 "refugees" are on hungerstrike : they demand (!) monthly 2000 Euro .

The BBC and CNN "forget" to tell you that we are expelled from our own cities and that in 2045 the European capitals will be Islam bulwarks where there is no place for non Muslims, that in Italy "refugees" are attacking catholic processions,etc,etc.
September 20th, 2015  
lljadw
 
The first quote (what Obama said about Assad) is nonsense and a lie :

Assad is supported by the majority of the Syrian people.

What Assad is doing in Syria is not the business of Obama :Obama is president of the US,not of Syria .

The presence of Assad in Syria is indispensable for the US : without Assad, Isis wil parade in Damascus .

But of course, for a liberal as Obama,this is impossible : Syria MUST accept the totalitarian ideology of liberalism,willy-nilly .

What the liberals (Wilson, Roosevelt, Carter,Obama) refuse to understand is that the world outside the US is not waiting on the blessings of liberal capitalism and democracy.

The so-called Arab Spring was a disaster for the Arab countries,for Europe and for the US.

And the quote about the Founding Fathers is pure BS : outside the US, no one cares about the Founding Fathers, and no one is understanding what they understood : what the Founding Fathers were telling was relevant for the US ,where they are considered,wrongly,as saints,but is irrelevant for the world outside the US : if people have to choose between democracy and affluence, they will choose affluence ;that's why people supported Stalin, Hitler,Assad, the present rulers of China, the ruler of North korea.

Erst kommt das Fressen,und dan die Moral .

For once, I agree with Berchtold Brecht .
September 21st, 2015  
MontyB
 
 
Don't take it up with me I didn't write or say it take it up with Obama it was his speech but I am amused that you can pick on one line of a speech and keep repeating it without ever providing the context of the speech itself.

What it shows is your bias and I would argue that because of that you are really not qualified to analyse the rest of his speech and choose the bits that are lies and which arent.

Or to be precise you are not a reliable source of information on this matter as you are blinded by ideological (I am hoping not racial) hatred.

Oh and please drop the "anti-semite" nonsense as it is an over used cliche rolled out by zionists to stiffle any disagreement and it has simply lost all meaning, used by those who have no real counter argument.
September 21st, 2015  
lljadw
 
I see : Zionists (= Israel) are bad .

Who is talking about bias ?

Israel is the only place where Jews are safe for a new holocaust .

"A secure Jewish state of Israel and an independent prosperous Palestine ": this is a contradictio in terminis :an independent prosperous Palestine can only exist if Israel ceases to exist .

"Such a peace must come through a just agreement between the parties ": the usual Obama nonsense,to disguise that he wants only one thing : that Israel would commit suicide by negociating with the Arabs .

There can never be an agreement between the Arabs and Israel,unless the US force Israel to commit suicide : the Arabs want to destroy Israel .Obama wants that Israel commits suicide .

All the rest are lies and hypocrisy .

Ahmadinejad wants only one thing : to finish the job of Eichmann.
 


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