How to stop China - Page 6




 
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October 25th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinection
Doody, I think that applies if the aircraft is not hostile. I'm not sure if spying is considered hostile, but I really don't think it's all to friendly either.
Sure, if some day in the future Chinese jets fly close to the American coast to collect some signals that would be appreciated by Amercians or at least not bothered at all.
October 26th, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinection
Doody, I think that applies if the aircraft is not hostile. I'm not sure if spying is considered hostile, but I really don't think it's all to friendly either.
"The U.S. case is weakened to some extent by a provision in the Convention on the Law of the Sea that vessels "collecting information to the prejudice of the defense or security of the coastal state" are not entitled to innocent passage within territorial waters, usually defined as 12 miles off shore."

It seems that military spy craft do not have protection. My bad, I was wrong!!!

SGT Doody
October 26th, 2004  
Ezechiel
 
[quote="FlyingFrog"]In American words "Very Sorry" is not "Apology"?

On April 11, Minister Tang Jiaxuan received a letter from the US Government saying "very sorry" for the US military surveillance plane ramming into and destroying a Chinese military plane, handed by the representative plenipotentiary of the US Government and US Ambassador Pruecher.[quote]



Yeah, They wrote a letter and mentioned VERY SORRY. Than China release all 24 hostages. The whole world taken this as apology.

After that, Bush came out and said : WE DIDN'T APOLOGIZE, VERY SORRY DOESN'T MEANS APOLOGIZE IN ENGLISH, BUT MEANS REGRET FOR THE DEATH OF A PERSON!!!...........

Go ask the USA president Bush, don't come and find me..............
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October 26th, 2004  
G.A.F.E.S.
 

Topic: agree


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Originally Posted by Ezechiel
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Originally Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer
[God, you're trying to penalize the west for protecting herself from communism? Logic? Okay.... whatever you say man.
Protecting? I suppose it's more than provoking. It's no wrong that the western world united and protecting theirselve. But the problem is that the Western countries lead the way into a more extreme side and coz the world more dangerous. I doubt they ever handle this in a soft way.

The plan of Socialism/Communism United League had been planned by Lenin BEFORE Russian became Soviet Union. This dream had only been given and be fullfilled by Stalin only. For it's also a knowledge invented by Karl Marx in his socialism theory.

And then, one thing u must know that, China were not a member of this united league. Which means China remained as neutral and never provoke any Communism revolting cases for these decades. Since China never be such a dangerous role, why do u worry they will be dangerous if they became No.1?

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Before u say China what and what and what, why don't u guyz think about what USA did as the No.1 nowadays?

1. Iraq

2. Afghan (but Afghanistan did survive in good way now, the problem is the act of invasion were still wrong)

3. USA and western countries supported and carry up a few dictators in Middle east area -- The Saudi family in Saudi Arbia is an example, In order to get the oil there.

4. Overlooked African, in the other hand still claiming they r peaceful big brother, who coz so much chaos in middle east.

5. Few years ago, USA "indelibrately", "Carelessly" bombed the Embassy of China. This once lead the world into a dangerous condition.

6. Also few years ago. USA planes went to spy the China land in China teritory. A Chinese pilot went to stop them but they refuse to do so. And accident happen,the pilot died. And what about the spies in the plane who got caught by China? China released them all. And yet USA rufuse to apologize............

5 and 6 once the dipolomatic relationship between USA and China in a verybad condition and can simply influent the worldwide economic and politics developement.

1,2,3 and 4 Made the world dangerous in terrorism. Islam world were taken as a very evil side commonly by others.

I think it's time for u guyz to do a "HOW TO STOP USA" thread here.

I agree .
October 26th, 2004  
ravensword227
 

Topic: Re: agree


Quote:
Originally Posted by G.A.F.E.S.
I agree .
Thanks for your carefully thought out and insightful reply.

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Yeah, They wrote a letter and mentioned VERY SORRY. Than China release all 24 hostages. The whole world taken this as apology.
I took it as acceptable behavior, but Asian leaders can be obsessed about loosing face; they donít want to look "weak". It doesnít really bother me anyway because the Soviets used to capture and execute our spies all the time even though we released their spies. No biggie.

On the other hand, there is one country that claimed we were spying on them and they intentionally bombed our ship in international waters, yet the U.S. government has no beef with them. Can anybody guess what I'm referring to? Click here for spoiler.
October 26th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
Quote:
On the other hand, there is one country that claimed we were spying on them and they intentionally bombed our ship in international waters, yet the U.S. government has no beef with them. Can anybody guess what I'm referring to? Click here for spoiler.
That's totally a different case.
Of course it was a mistake btw 2 friendly countries.
October 26th, 2004  
ravensword227
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
That's totally a different case.
Of course it was a mistake btw 2 friendly countries.
That's not the way Admiral Moorer and his men have it. They have some pretty strong statements you might want to read.
October 26th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
I knew the Liberty story, but just using common sense, why would Israel attack US ships when US was the main supportor of Israel especially in the beginning time of the establishing of Israel country. It can only be a mistake.
November 7th, 2004  
dragon
 
China is now unstoppable just like their dominancy of springboard diving/table tennis unstoppable.
November 7th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
Cool it.