Hey come on some of my best friends are women, I love women... as often as possible in fact.
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Oops.. excuse me. I must've taken a wrong turn back there. I thought this was IMF but it looks like it could be the "He Man Woman Hater's Club" instead... so sorry.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jNICI38fEc
There it is...it was a matter of time.
I was thinking the same thing, Tigress does have claws that's for sure.
That is all fine and good...people can keep telling us we are evil, woman haters, or rapists all they want...just don't be surprised when men decide(as is becoming the case more and more) to simply walk away from the whole game.
Equality comes with responsibility, it cannot be any other way.
You know what ever since the moment I told my ex fiance that I could no longer afford to pay for her lifestyle I went from being the best man she had to being literally I quote : A cheating low lifed piece of punk *** s***. And I was 5 years younger than the woman. I aparently also cheated frequently, was an alchoholic probably on drugs who didn't listen or had any compassion what so ever in this one sided arrangement.
My biggest crime was wanting to save so we could have food to eat and not spend what little I had left to spend on those important things, like concert tickets, seat covers and rims for her car.
I still have that bad taste in my mouth, and honestly has compelled me like some other guys I know to just do exactly that, not put up with it, now I really don't have any compassion, now I really don't open my wallet for anything and right now, I really don't see the point of spend not only thousands upon thousands on the circus like idea that has become the modern wedding but not wasting years upon years of my life stuck in another miserable situation when I can be happier doing what I am now.
Living my own life.
This seems to be the trend anymore, and soon the legal power may be on the women's side but the social happiness will be swayed to all the males who figure out you don't need marriage to live life to it's fullest anymore.
This won't account for %100 of all people for sure, but expect it to much more common in the near future as homosexual relationships for example are today compared to 30 years ago.
This example is a poignant reminder that this IS happening. If we aren't good enough for the million expectations that are now placed on us by the liberated woman...(without being demonized for having our own expectations in return) Men will just stop giving a crap. MGTOW was one of top five most searched acronyms on google in 2013 and 2014. More and more they are realizing they don't want all the hassle that comes from the relationship game because it has turned into a zero sum game.
55% of marriages end in divorce.
70-75% of all divorces are initiated by women.
90% of ALL alimony money is paid by men.
Furthermore, no matter how good of a father we are, or how good of a husband we were...if the woman decides, she could literally deny us access to our children, force us into slavery through alimony and child support. (which happens all the time) If we don't toe the line, the state will force us to, and men with guns will knock on our door and throw us in prison while crocodile tears flow in the background.
This is the reality young men face these days. They are doing the cost benefit analysis and they are finding that they will never be able to win...things will always be our fault...noone will ever take what we say seriously. So huge amounts of young men are simply not playing the game.
What are they finding out? Not only is it cheaper, but they are learning that they are now allowed to be happy without slaving themselves trying to make someone else happy with diminishing returns in their investment. Fingers are worked to the bone only to still be told we are abusive or stupid or oppressive or worthless...so why bother?
"Where have all the good men gone?"...They've been there all along. After being crapped on most of their lives by the very women they were trying to court and be nice/chivalrous to...they realized that (mostly) those women weren't interested in that guy...so they took their ball and went home. They are giving true equality to everyone in the form of no special treatment...and apparently that is problematic.
This example is a poignant reminder that this IS happening. If we aren't good enough for the million expectations that are now placed on us by the liberated woman...(without being demonized for having our own expectations in return) Men will just stop giving a crap. MGTOW was one of top five most searched acronyms on google in 2013 and 2014. More and more they are realizing they don't want all the hassle that comes from the relationship game because it has turned into a zero sum game.
Furthermore, no matter how good of a father we are, or how good of a husband we were...if the woman decides, she could literally deny us access to our children, force us into slavery through alimony and child support. (which happens all the time) If we don't toe the line, the state will force us to, and men with guns will knock on our door and throw us in prison while crocodile tears flow in the background.
This is the reality young men face these days. They are doing the cost benefit analysis and they are finding that they will never be able to win...things will always be our fault...noone will ever take what we say seriously. So huge amounts of young men are simply not playing the game.
What are they finding out? Not only is it cheaper, but they are learning that they are now allowed to be happy without slaving themselves trying to make someone else happy with diminishing returns in their investment. Fingers are worked to the bone only to still be told we are abusive or stupid or oppressive or worthless...so why bother?
This is starting to sound like battered wives syndrome and my advice remains the same, if your relationship sucks then pack your shit and move on don't sit around looking for people to blame, crying about it not working or making compromises to fix it as it just doesn't work.
MGTOW is fine but it isn't all that new and quite honestly it should be PGTOW (P=People) as no one should be in a relationship that stiffles them.
And once again this is a failing of the legal system and you really cant blame people for taking advantage of it, lets face it if the government tomorrow reversed the roles then I guarantee the same stories would emerge from the other side.
So in reality the problem is solving itself.
I think you misunderstand me. You are assuming I'm simply bitter because you think I'm in a "crappy relationship". Nothing could be further from the truth, I lucked out and found the proverbial unicorn. This doesn't mean I don't see it all around me though. It also doesn't mean that my children won't be affected by it either. Nice try at telling me to "man up" though...I really needed that.
Teaching at a university these last few years has been eye opening as to this problem. I'm not sure if New Zealand is comparible to the US...All I can say here is that it is a big problem. Political correctness has paralyzed productivity and mediocrity reigns...if you don't walk on eggshells to preserve peoples feelings then it could potentially be a career ender. That is a problem.
It is the legal system as you say. Should I simply throw my hands up and say "oh well"? The government WON'T reverse it...not unless a lot of men AND women get pissed off enough to make them change it. This is starting to happen, but it is going to get worse before it gets better. A little activism goes a long way. I'm simply doing my part...
How does one not be a "pussy whipped waste of skin" then?
Rule #2 drop the losers and nut cases like hot potato's. Don't try and analyze the situation just end it.
How does one not be a "pussy whipped waste of skin" then?
Get a job?
Go to college?
Shut up and stop whining?
Work until your bones fall out?
Men can do everything right...or wrong, and it doesn't matter. Unless they have gobs of money to pay on lawyer fees, they are gonna get crushed by the legal system at the hands of their woman, if she so desires. There is nothing they can do about it. Not yet. So they are walking away from it which is a natural result. They are showing how reliant the whole system is on men, and they are showing both the uber feminists and the legal system how easily their house of cards will fall if men don't play. They are treating women with the equality they never really wanted in the first place.
what is your solution for "changing the parameters of that result"?
I believe one has to man up. If you behave as a pussy whipped wimp expect to be walked all over. A good women is worth her weight in gold but you must be worthy of her love and respect for the marriage - relationship to work.
Rule #2 drop the losers and nut cases like hot potato's. Don't try and analyze the situation just end it.
It drives men to take what they can without committing and treating women worse off now than before this whole legality circus ever got drafted.
That's why women now often find there are no good men out there anymore, not because they don't exist, but mainly because there is as mentioned:
No point in being a good man anymore. The legal system has destroyed the social balance.
That's the issue, the system slants many things making it to where you just can't "end it" without heavily impacting your social, economic or even professional and personal standing.
It's not just walk away, there is almost always very serious repercussions.
Here is another option how about going through life being yourself rather than molding yourself to the personality of those you are trying to impress, if a relationship is going to work it will be because of who you are not who you are trying to be this week.
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