How ISIS Works

Yes ISIS took some US: Abrams tanks, hummers, artillery from the rapidly retreating Iraqi army earlier this year. But supplying them on purpose nonsense.

Vaja, Istikhbarat and militats have another view.
 
Christianity is a religion of Peace but not of pacifists , Christians say join me or not that's up to you but if you try to force your ideology on me someone is going to get hurt . Islam says our way is the only way convert or die .
While you are reasnably correct about the Christianity side, you are not correct about Islam.

With Islam everyone is muslim (name?), it is only when they openly disavow being muslim that they are no longer. There is no conversion.

So when someone has a gun to your head telling you to convert to Islam or die, they really aren't "pushing religion", they are just looking for a reason to kill you. You can convert from another religion to Islam, but you will be asked about this when you are interviewed by the Imam. If you have not openly disavowed Islam, then technically you still are.




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I am Christian and they are killing thousands of Christians as well, even crucifying some. I agree with your statement may God help us from these fanatics!!!
 
They are the best armed terrorist group to date. Having taken the hardware from the retreating Iraqi army and purchased military hardware with their oil revenues. They have successfully waged conventional warfare in Syria and Iraq and waged terror bombing campaigns (Bagdad) when the desired territory is out of their reach. Well but Timothy.

I respectfully disagree with you Sir! I believe the best armed terrorist group to date was - with an army, navy and a rudimentary air force - the LTTE, better known as the Tamil Tigers.

Here is what a foremost American scholar Dr Bruce Hoffman wrote about them:

Although it is tempting to dismiss the French army's resort to torture in Algeria as the desperate excess of a moribund colonial power, the fundamental message that only information can effectively counter terrorism is timeless. Equally disturbing and instructive, however, are the lengths to which security and military forces need often resort to get that information. I learned this some years ago, on a research trip to Sri Lanka. The setting—a swank oceanfront hotel in Colombo, a refreshingly cool breeze coming off the ocean, a magnificent sunset on the horizon—could not have been further removed from the carnage and destruction that have afflicted that island country for the past eighteen years and have claimed the lives of more than 60,000 people. Arrayed against the democratically elected Sri Lankan government and its armed forces is perhaps the most ruthlessly efficient terrorist organization-***-insurgent force in the world today: the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, known also by the acronym LTTE or simply as the Tamil Tigers. The Tigers are unique in the annals of terrorism and arguably eclipse even bin Laden's al Qaeda in professionalism, capability, and determination. They are believed to be the first nonstate group in history to stage a chemical-weapons attack when they deployed poison gas in a 1990 assault on a Sri Lankan military base—some five years before the nerve-gas attack on the Tokyo subway by the apocalyptic Japanese religious cult Aum Shinrikyo. Of greater relevance, perhaps, is the fact that at least a decade before the seaborne attack on the U.S.S. Cole, in Aden harbor, the LTTE's special suicide maritime unit, the Sea Tigers, had perfected the same tactics against the Sri Lankan navy. Moreover, the Tamil Tigers are believed to have developed their own embryonic air capability—designed to carry out attacks similar to those of September 11 (though with much smaller, noncommercial aircraft). The most feared Tiger unit, however, is the Black Tigers—the suicide cadre composed of the group's best-trained, most battle-hardened, and most zealous fighters. A partial list of their operations includes the assassination of the former Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi at a campaign stop in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu, in 1991; the assassination of Sri Lankan President Ranasinghe Premadasa, in 1993; the assassination of the presidential candidate Gamini Dissanayake, which also claimed the lives of fifty-four bystanders and injured about one hundred more, in 1994; the suicide truck bombing of the Central Bank of Sri Lanka, in 1996, which killed eighty-six people and wounded 1,400 others; and the attempt on the life of the current President of Sri Lanka, Chandrika Kumaratunga, in December of 1999. The powerful and much venerated leader of the LTTE is Velupillai Prabhakaran, who, like bin Laden, exercises a charismatic influence over his fighters. The Battle of Algiers is said to be one of Prabhakaran's favorite films.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/01/a-nasty-business/302379/
 
Report on PressTV yesterday said that operations in Tikrit are paused until reinforcements arrive and in order to allow civilians to leave the town.






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Iraq mission: Stephen Harper says Canada won't ask Syria's consent for strikes
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ira...n-t-ask-syria-s-consent-for-strikes-1.3006469

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has laid out his case for Canada to renew its participation in the coalition fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

The prime minister is proposing to expand and extend Canada's initial six-month military mission in Iraq and asking for support for an additional one-year air mission against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, also known as ISIS or ISIL.

ISIS, as an offshoot of Al Qaeda, continues to commit atrocities against humanity in Iraq, Syria and now into Libya. Unless this fast spreading violence and hatred is stopped, the carnage will most likely expand throughout the Middle East and Asia in the near future.

In reading Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) in the ongoing counterterrorism operations in Iraq, Syria and Libya, I have noticed a pattern, in the Islamic State terrorists’ “modus operandi”, that of a spider.

Spiders have eight legs and two body parts - a head region (cephalothorax) and an abdomen. Most spiders have toxic venom, which they use to kill their prey.

So if the international community wants to get rid of ISIS, hypothetically speaking, they have to get rid of the head region of ISIS, the “cephalothorax” of the spider, instead of fighting with its eight legs.


What I was trying pinpoint is that, while ISIS's headquarters (cephalothorax) is located in Syria, its survival (abdomen) depends on how much area they control in Iraq. Thus before this ISIS "spider" transform into "multi-head" and "multi-pronged" the international community has to get rid of them.
 
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Iraq mission: Stephen Harper says Canada won't ask Syria's consent for strikes
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ira...n-t-ask-syria-s-consent-for-strikes-1.3006469



ISIS, as an offshoot of Al Qaeda, continues to commit atrocities against humanity in Iraq, Syria and now into Libya. Unless this fast spreading violence and hatred is stopped, the carnage will most likely expand throughout the Middle East and Asia in the near future.

In reading Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) in the ongoing counterterrorism operations in Iraq, Syria and Libya, I have noticed a pattern, in the Islamic State terrorists’ “modus operandi”, that of a spider.

Spiders have eight legs and two body parts - a head region (cephalothorax) and an abdomen. Most spiders have toxic venom, which they use to kill their prey.

So if the international community wants to get rid of ISIS, hypothetically speaking, they have to get rid of the head region of ISIS, the “cephalothorax” of the spider, instead of fighting with its eight legs.


What I was trying pinpoint is that, while ISIS's headquarters (cephalothorax) is located in Syria, its survival (abdomen) depends on how much area they control in Iraq. Thus before this ISIS "spider" transform into "multi-head" and "multi-pronged" the international community has to get rid of them.


Three factors that are pillars of ISIS success in radicalization:

1.One, in 2003 we basically fired the majority of the Iraqi Army, and they went home with their weapons. Thus the insurgency resulted. Iraqi officers loyal to Sadam's Baath party used their years of military experience and organization to ultimately influence and created ISIS. That's why Baath party banners are all over the place in ISIS influenced territory.

2. We once more screwed Libya all up and made a similar mistake that we did in Iraq. We destroyed the local job market, fractured the government which is now fighting itself as it's squandered among rival rebel factions. Now there are large numbers of young men, who cannot get an education, cannot go to Europe, who are frustrated and cannot hope to get a job. Then an ISIS contact offers them $2,000 dollars. And gives them a chance as a fighter giving confidence and purpose.

3. ISIS has a very effective recruiting campaign. Using Social media and networks a large number of die hard ISIS fighters, and often the most radical are not Syrian or Iraqi's. They come from Turkey, Lebanon,Chechnya even France, Canada, Great Britain and the United States. As long as foreign fighters flock over the borders to die for the cause you will have this problem. It's exactly what destabilized Iraq in the past.

Bottom line, close the borders around the regions, get nation's like Turkey to get serious and crack down on their borders.

You are right the core leader's are from this region, but a large portion are foreign fighters.
 
Three factors that are pillars of ISIS success in radicalization:

1.One, in 2003 we basically fired the majority of the Iraqi Army, and they went home with their weapons. Thus the insurgency resulted. Iraqi officers loyal to Sadam's Baath party used their years of military experience and organization to ultimately influence and created ISIS. That's why Baath party banners are all over the place in ISIS influenced territory.

2. We once more screwed Libya all up and made a similar mistake that we did in Iraq. We destroyed the local job market, fractured the government which is now fighting itself as it's squandered among rival rebel factions. Now there are large numbers of young men, who cannot get an education, cannot go to Europe, who are frustrated and cannot hope to get a job. Then an ISIS contact offers them $2,000 dollars. And gives them a chance as a fighter giving confidence and purpose.

3. ISIS has a very effective recruiting campaign. Using Social media and networks a large number of die hard ISIS fighters, and often the most radical are not Syrian or Iraqi's. They come from Turkey, Lebanon,Chechnya even France, Canada, Great Britain and the United States. As long as foreign fighters flock over the borders to die for the cause you will have this problem. It's exactly what destabilized Iraq in the past.

Bottom line, close the borders around the regions, get nation's like Turkey to get serious and crack down on their borders.

You are right the core leader's are from this region, but a large portion are foreign fighters.

Yossarian, I agree with your points. But, the Canadian Prime Minister Harper is asking the support of the parliament to extend and expand Canada’s military mission one more year particularly targeting Syria. However the opposition parties, both New Democrats and Liberals, are opposing this and suggesting that Canada should involve in humanitarian missions, such as helping to solve the refugee crisis and other aid work in Iraq and Syria.

IMHO, the opposition parties’ idea does have a long term strategic advantage and we could benefit from it down the road. First we have to isolate the insurgents/terrorists from the general populace. Let the refugees come out and settle them in other countries thereby showcasing the soft power of Canada/NATO rather than PM Harper’s hard power strategy which is bombing Iraq and Syria. By weeding the insurgents out of legitimate refugees, we can eventually apply Mao Tse Tung’s theory that “insurgents are like fish in an ocean of people”. By separating the “ocean” of general populace from the insurgent “fish” we will be able to determine the survival of the enemy insurgents/terrorists.

The following report is a clear evident how badly the insurgents want to block aid inside the conflict zone.

Both Islamic State group, Syria government slow down aid: UN
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...4420d8-d23a-11e4-8b1e-274d670aa9c9_story.html
 
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Airstrikes alone at this time are not doing it.

This is true Yossarian, but they do some whittling away at the buggers when we catch them in the open.

It's a shame we aren't stationed in nearby Turkey "rather than on carriers in the gulf" we could be on them in a heartbeat, use virtually nil fuel and have a lot more planes ready to strike, since Turkey has 1st rate military air bases only a stones away from the combat zone. Right know each carrier based strike cost us a small fortune.
 
And how should one separate the ocean of population from the insurgent fish ?

Good question indeed!

If you are able to win the hearts and minds of the general populace they will do the job for you. Isn’t it the core strategy of COIN doctrine?

Yes, we have to win the hearts and minds of the people. That’s where a great nation’s soft power plays its part.

Hard power is vital in order to safe guard a nation’s interest, however, when we confront an enemy of different faces we have to explore other options and tools to combat them by the means of non-military strategies.

Remember, according to Sun Tzu, the best way to win a war is without even fighting it.

As such, eliminating the will to fight and destroying the spirit of the enemy’s potential to fight is also paramount.

An ideology has to be fought with another set of ideologies, rather than by swords and guns; may it be a religious ideology, ethno-nationalist ideology or secessionist ideology.

An American Congresswoman, Jane Harman, had pointed out in her blog that "while the 'hard power' represented by drone strikes and aircraft carriers is essential to our security, living and portraying our values is as - if not more - important in the long run". She went on to say that "we have a responsibility to craft a winning narrative. When we fail to step up and define ourselves, the extremists will be happy to do it for us..."

Fighting terrorism softly
By Jane Harman
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/10/fighting-terrorism-softly-opinion/

What I am trying to say here is that: “Don’t use cannon to kill a mosquito….” – Confucius
 
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"The image of Islamic State has become a beacon for the radicalized youth; even girls travel to join the terrorist group, willingly becoming sex slaves. What drives young minds towards an organization considered too violent even for Al-Qaeda? We ask the man who was once a radical jihadist, turned undercover agent and expert on terrorism. Mubin Shaikh is on Sophie & Co...."

Inside ISIS: 'Terrorism is new counter-culture for youngsters' - undercover jihadist to RT
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